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Don
Don
Jun 5, 2014
12:04pm
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
I believe you [boilerman] are wrong. The Taliban and AlQueda are not the same people. The Taliban is almost exclusively a tribe that exists and acts within the borders of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
I suggest you [boilerman] do some homework and learn about the people you are talking about.
[boldface added - DD]

DonDiego thanks pjstroh for suggesting one do one's homework before spouting off on an internet forum.

It turns out neither the Taliban nor al Qaeda are particularly exclusive organizations.

Excerpts from the CNN report as to who the Gitmo detainees swapped for Bergdahl are:
Khair Ulla Said Wali Khairkhwa - . . . he was alleged to have been "directly associated" with Osama bin Laden. According to a detainee assessment, Khairkhwa also was probably associated with al Qaeda's now-deceased leader in Iraq, Abu Musab al Zarqawi.
Mullah Mohammad Fazl - He was alleged to have been associated with several militant Islamist groups, including al Qaeda.
Mullah Norullah Noori - [no reference to Al Qaeda affiliation]
Abdul Haq Wasiq - Wasiq was also "an al Qaeda intelligence member" and had links with members of another militant Islamist group, Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin.
Mohammad Nabi Omari - he was a member of the Taliban and associated with both al Qaeda and another militant group Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin. He was the Taliban's chief of communications and helped al Qaeda members escape from Afghanistan to Pakistan.

Uh-Oh. It seems the Taliban and al Qaeda are the same people, . . . sometimes, . . . and 4-out-of-5 this time.
melonhead
melonhead
Jun 5, 2014
12:16pm
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Originally posted by: drmilled
To summarize: The 3 blind liberals,Chilcoot, forkush and PJ are completly wrong to defend what Obama has done. Obama has once again defied Congress and slithered like the snake he is and made this horrible trade for a traitor. I don't care to hear what was done by someone else in the past, what happened in the past has NOTHING to do with the releasing of 5 terrorists. This was a political move done by the Liar- in Chief without the approval of Congress. Once again, another example of "change you can believe in" by the worst President of the United States our nation has ever elected. Those of you who voted for this liar have once again been proven to be ignorant beyond belief. We have not heard the last of these 5 terrorists, and I will blame Obama for what will happen in the future at the hands of these animals.


To summarize: The foaming-at-the mouth hatred coming from the doc never ends.....
pjstroh
pjstroh
Jun 5, 2014
12:20pm
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
I believe you [boilerman] are wrong. The Taliban and AlQueda are not the same people. The Taliban is almost exclusively a tribe that exists and acts within the borders of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
I suggest you [boilerman] do some homework and learn about the people you are talking about.
[boldface added - DD]

DonDiego thanks pjstroh for suggesting one do one's homework before spouting off on an internet forum.

It turns out neither the Taliban nor al Qaeda are particularly exclusive organizations.

Excerpts from the CNN report as to who the Gitmo detainees swapped for Bergdahl are:
Khair Ulla Said Wali Khairkhwa - . . . he was alleged to have been "directly associated" with Osama bin Laden. According to a detainee assessment, Khairkhwa also was probably associated with al Qaeda's now-deceased leader in Iraq, Abu Musab al Zarqawi.
Mullah Mohammad Fazl - He was alleged to have been associated with several militant Islamist groups, including al Qaeda.
Mullah Norullah Noori - [no reference to Al Qaeda affiliation]
Abdul Haq Wasiq - Wasiq was also "an al Qaeda intelligence member" and had links with members of another militant Islamist group, Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin.
Mohammad Nabi Omari - he was a member of the Taliban and associated with both al Qaeda and another militant group Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin. He was the Taliban's chief of communications and helped al Qaeda members escape from Afghanistan to Pakistan.

Uh-Oh. It seems the Taliban and al Qaeda are the same people, . . . sometimes, . . . and 4-out-of-5 this time.


I was responding to Boilerman's post at 3:58 which specifically called out the Taliban....not the detainees. But thanks for chiming in !
marcisdave
marcisdave
Jun 5, 2014
12:53pm
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Originally posted by: drmilled
To summarize: The 3 blind liberals,Chilcoot, forkush and PJ are completly wrong to defend what Obama has done. Obama has once again defied Congress and slithered like the snake he is and made this horrible trade for a traitor. I don't care to hear what was done by someone else in the past, what happened in the past has NOTHING to do with the releasing of 5 terrorists. This was a political move done by the Liar- in Chief without the approval of Congress. Once again, another example of "change you can believe in" by the worst President of the United States our nation has ever elected. Those of you who voted for this liar have once again been proven to be ignorant beyond belief. We have not heard the last of these 5 terrorists, and I will blame Obama for what will happen in the future at the hands of these animals.


When Charlie Crist gave the REAL reason why he bailed out of the sinking ship known as the GOP, he meant because of haters and racist like YOU DRMILLED...... is why he got the hell out of that criminal Republican Party.

Old, bitter, male, and racist white is not the political wave of the future.


marcisdave
marcisdave
Jun 5, 2014
12:57pm
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Hypocritical scum, or scummy hypocrite?






Forkush - There are millions of examples of that ! Lots of Repubs been busy deleting their "before release" tweets and internet messages in order to comply with the Faux entertainment channel and AM radio zealots.

Hypocrits - YES
Scum - YES
Haters - YES
Never to reside in the White House again - YES

Roulette Man
Roulette Man
Jun 5, 2014
1:17pm
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How funny, the most miserable hateful man on this board makes sweep accusations against others of being the same as him. Someone needs to stop talking and start doing.
snidely333
snidely333
Jun 5, 2014
1:43pm
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
How funny, the most miserable hateful man on this board makes sweep accusations against others of being the same as him. Someone needs to stop talking and start doing.


You're going to have to be more specific. There are just too many miserable hateful folks on here for me to tell who is the most miserable.

The total lack of objectiveness from both sides of the aisle is evident. On the surface, it was a shitty swap. I wonder why it happened. The only people happy about the swap seem to be the soldier, his family and the Taliban.
forkushV
forkushV
Jun 5, 2014
3:07pm
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Originally posted by: snidely333
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
How funny, the most miserable hateful man on this board makes sweep accusations against others of being the same as him. Someone needs to stop talking and start doing.


You're going to have to be more specific. There are just too many miserable hateful folks on here for me to tell who is the most miserable.

The total lack of objectiveness from both sides of the aisle is evident. On the surface, it was a shitty swap...
You're going to have to be more specific. Are you referring to when Reagan traded 1,500 missiles for 3 hostages? Or when George Washington traded prisoners? Or Lincoln? Or when Israel traded 1,027 prisoners for ONE Israeli - or when they traded five prisoners for two BODIES?

And snidely, congratulations on figuring out that five is more than one, but that's the kind of thing we have to do, and that's the kind of thing Israel has to do. We try to protect of all of our soldiers while the other side thinks nothing of sending their soldiers on pure suicide missions. When you value life, and the other side doesn't, the trades are never going to be close to even.
alexlifeson
alexlifeson
Jun 5, 2014
4:00pm
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Originally posted by: drmilled
To summarize: The 3 blind liberals,Chilcoot, forkush and PJ are completly wrong to defend what Obama has done. Obama has once again defied Congress and slithered like the snake he is and made this horrible trade for a traitor. I don't care to hear what was done by someone else in the past, what happened in the past has NOTHING to do with the releasing of 5 terrorists. This was a political move done by the Liar- in Chief without the approval of Congress. Once again, another example of "change you can believe in" by the worst President of the United States our nation has ever elected. Those of you who voted for this liar have once again been proven to be ignorant beyond belief. We have not heard the last of these 5 terrorists, and I will blame Obama for what will happen in the future at the hands of these animals.


The scary thought is that Obama could probably win again if he was eligible to run. It's a pretty easy gameplan to follow with many of these people:

1) If your argument in support of Obama is weak then blame Bush.

2) If your argument in support of Obama is REALLY weak then criticize Reagan.

3) If you are Melonhead, then cry like a little girl by proclaiming "Hate".

hoops2
hoops2
Jun 5, 2014
9:37pm
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Almost 60% of the people no longer approve of the job he is doing. If people knew they couldn't keep their doctor, that the NSA was spying on them, that the IRS was being used to limit free speech, he would have lost
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