Taliban Terrorist / American Soldier Swap

Sen. John McCain on Feb. 18, 2014:

"Well, at that time the proposal was that they would release — Taliban, some of them really hard-core, particularly five really hard-core Taliban leaders, as a confidence-building measure. Now this idea is for an exchange of prisoners for our American fighting man. (Bergdahl). I would be inclined to support such a thing depending on a lot of the details."


Okay.....let me get this straight. Back earlier this year, McCain, Ayotte, and various other Richpublican whiners and bellyachers were for the plan to gain the release of Sgt. Bergdahl.

Now that it has happened, the same clueless dolts of the Rethuglican Party are all up in arms about it, like they were blindsided and never seen it coming !

The GOP does more flip flopping than an electrified Asian carp.

Of course, the usual "suspect sheep" here on the FFA, who get all their info from Hannity and the AM radio preachers, have chimed in with their fake outrage over the release of Sgt. Bergdahl. It's like the sun rising in the east and a bear shitting in the woods......you can always count on their special brand of HATE like clockwork.


The more I think about it, the more I realize...........Charlie Crist was 100% correct in his assesment of the GOP.
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Does PJ believe that this deal will lead to more American hostages in the future?



Ronald Reagan might be a better person to ask if he were alive.

But since you ask me....My understanding is there wont be many Americans left for the Taliban to kidnap in Afghanistan by the end of 2015. So I'll say probably not.

And despite Sean Hannity's attempts to pretend this kind of thing is unprecedented...we have about 3000 years of recorded history of warfare and prisoner swaps.
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Originally posted by: marcisdave
Sen. John McCain on Feb. 18, 2014:

"Well, at that time the proposal was that they would release — Taliban, some of them really hard-core, particularly five really hard-core Taliban leaders, as a confidence-building measure. Now this idea is for an exchange of prisoners for our American fighting man. (Bergdahl). I would be inclined to support such a thing depending on a lot of the details."


Okay.....let me get this straight. Back earlier this year, McCain, Ayotte, and various other Richpublican whiners and bellyachers were for the plan to gain the release of Sgt. Bergdahl.


You don't have it "straight". If this was being planned so long ago, why did Obama bypass the law he signed requiring 30 days notice to Congress? "depending on a lot of details" isn't approval of anything when there are no details offered.

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Originally posted by: marcisdave Now that it has happened, the same clueless dolts of the Rethuglican Party are all up in arms about it, like they were blindsided and never seen it coming !

The GOP does more flip flopping than an electrified Asian carp.

Of course, the usual "suspect sheep" here on the FFA, who get all their info from Hannity and the AM radio preachers, have chimed in with their fake outrage over the release of Sgt. Bergdahl. It's like the sun rising in the east and a bear shitting in the woods......you can always count on their special brand of HATE like clockwork.


The more I think about it, the more I realize...........Charlie Crist was 100% correct in his assesment of the GOP.

Who the hell is Charlie Crist?

Obama just released 5 of the most deadly and murderous people on the planet in exchange for one deserter who renounced his citizenship and walked away from his post on the battle field. Obama exchanged 5 incredibly dangerous people for 1 rat who has been helping the enemies of America ever since he walked away from his fellow soldiers to join the enemy. And you, and PJ and Forkush and Chilcoot all support the absolute treason unilaterally enacted by Obama against America. I do hate people who pretend to support America and our troops in one breath, yet will condone absolute treason in the next breath. There is NO other explanation for releasing the leadership of an enemy of America WHILE WE ARE STILL AT WAR WITH THEM IN THEIR COUNTRY!

This is not comparable to any previous prisoner exchanges in previous wars. It's not even close. Keep your noses stuck up Obama's butt. He, the Taliban and Allah appreciate it.
I'm just amazed at how spineless some of the apologists are on this board. I respect the liberals on this board (who seemed to have served our country) who have spoken up and disagreed with what Obama did. You even have Diane Feinstein pissed off at Obama. I'm amazed that we have such sheep on this board.

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
I'm just amazed at how spineless some of the apologists are on this board. I respect the liberals on this board (who seemed to have served our country) who have spoken up and disagreed with what Obama did. You even have Diane Feinstein pissed off at Obama. I'm amazed that we have such sheep on this board.


Spineless is putting it mildly. I admire your restraint.
PJ, my question didn't address hostage taking within any specific geography. There are Muslim terrorists around that globe, and do you believe that giving 5 hostages in return for this guy increases the likelihood that more American hostages will be taken in the future.

Do you believe the Taliban considered this a win, and if so, doesn't a win encourage more such actions?


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Does PJ believe that this deal will lead to more American hostages in the future?



Ronald Reagan might be a better person to ask if he were alive.

But since you ask me....My understanding is there wont be many Americans left for the Taliban to kidnap in Afghanistan by the end of 2015. So I'll say probably not.

And despite Sean Hannity's attempts to pretend this kind of thing is unprecedented...we have about 3000 years of recorded history of warfare and prisoner swaps.


Marcis, the bum being a traitor is one "detail" that might have changed McCain's mind.


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Originally posted by: marcisdave
Sen. John McCain on Feb. 18, 2014:

"Well, at that time the proposal was that they would release — Taliban, some of them really hard-core, particularly five really hard-core Taliban leaders, as a confidence-building measure. Now this idea is for an exchange of prisoners for our American fighting man. (Bergdahl). I would be inclined to support such a thing depending on a lot of the details."


Okay.....let me get this straight. Back earlier this year, McCain, Ayotte, and various other Richpublican whiners and bellyachers were for the plan to gain the release of Sgt. Bergdahl.

Now that it has happened, the same clueless dolts of the Rethuglican Party are all up in arms about it, like they were blindsided and never seen it coming !

The GOP does more flip flopping than an electrified Asian carp.

Of course, the usual "suspect sheep" here on the FFA, who get all their info from Hannity and the AM radio preachers, have chimed in with their fake outrage over the release of Sgt. Bergdahl. It's like the sun rising in the east and a bear shitting in the woods......you can always count on their special brand of HATE like clockwork.


The more I think about it, the more I realize...........Charlie Crist was 100% correct in his assesment of the GOP.


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Originally posted by: Boilerman
PJ, my question didn't address hostage taking within any specific geography. There are Muslim terrorists around that globe, and do you believe that giving 5 hostages in return for this guy increases the likelihood that more American hostages will be taken in the future.

Do you believe the Taliban considered this a win, and if so, doesn't a win encourage more such actions?


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Does PJ believe that this deal will lead to more American hostages in the future?



Ronald Reagan might be a better person to ask if he were alive.

But since you ask me....My understanding is there wont be many Americans left for the Taliban to kidnap in Afghanistan by the end of 2015. So I'll say probably not.

And despite Sean Hannity's attempts to pretend this kind of thing is unprecedented...we have about 3000 years of recorded history of warfare and prisoner swaps.



No more so than when Reagan increased the likelihood of future kidknappings when he gave terrorists large scale weapons in exchange for prisoners.

I dont begrudge the president for getting back a soldier regardless of the soldiers actions. I have problems with the terms ( the 5:1 ratio).

My understanding is the released Taliban captives were never charged with a crime. If the war in Afghanistan is coming to an end then its pretty hard to retain captivity of uncharged POW's from that war. I think this reasoning may have been at play. It may be a step towards shutting down Guantanamo.
I find it amusing how all the right wingers on this board who were cheering for Grandpa Bundy to open fire at Federal agents in Nevada now want to lecture about treasonous behavior.
Can chilly/forkydave please explain how this was a good deal and how it benefits the United States?
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