Vegas Free-for-All - Tell me why we can't neuter certain people?

Tell me why we can't neuter certain people?

siwst852

Dec 24, 2014
5:23am

I seldom comment on these but this hits home. Forget abortion or payments for vasectomy the simplest solution is. One "oops" baby after going on welfare after that no additional monies given even if they have 20 more kids.

Michigan started a program after 5 years no more ADC unless they got a job, went to school etc. It was working very well less and less women on it and then they changed to rules back.

malibber2

Dec 24, 2014
6:19am

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Originally posted by: Siwst852
I seldom comment on these but this hits home. Forget abortion or payments for vasectomy the simplest solution is. One "oops" baby after going on welfare after that no additional monies given even if they have 20 more kids.

Michigan started a program after 5 years no more ADC unless they got a job, went to school etc. It was working very well less and less women on it and then they changed to rules back.

Of course the problem with that is you are punishing the kids not the parents. If daddy doesn't financially support or acknowledge his kid (as in the OP) you aren't punishing him by cutting off food stamps or some other type of assistance to the mom your punishing the innocent child.

And yes this is a conservative issue because everywhere you look they are trying to restrict access to birth control often based on nothing more than some crackpot theory like an IUD is an Abortifacient.

jatki

Dec 24, 2014
6:55am

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I like the idea, after going on welfare with a kid, no more money for additional ones. Sounds like a perfect solution.

malibber2

Dec 24, 2014
7:39am

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Originally posted by: jatki99
I like the idea, after going on welfare with a kid, no more money for additional ones. Sounds like a perfect solution.

Here is what happens the mom can't support the kid, and the state takes away the kid. Instead of partially supporting the kid when he/she was with mom the state is now responsible for 100% of the kid's needs.

alanleroy

Dec 24, 2014
9:08am

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Originally posted by: malibber2 Of course the problem with that is you are punishing the kids not the parents. If daddy doesn't financially support or acknowledge his kid (as in the OP) you aren't punishing him by cutting off food stamps or some other type of assistance to the mom your punishing the innocent child.

Ok....for every welfare baby after the first, the Father has to sell a kidney or other transplantable organ. The money goes into a trust for the kid.

jatki

Dec 24, 2014
11:32am

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Or the mom forgoes the latest Iphone.

Number51

Dec 26, 2014
3:35pm

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"Welfare Queens? Welfare Kings Rule the Land
Big corporations take the cake (and everything else) when it comes to welfare."

U.S. News & World Report

"Since "welfare queens" and the idea of "givers versus takers" are the topics "du jour" again, let's look at the forgotten takers: the "welfare kings" on the corporate side."

If you want to complain about Social Welfare and have any credibility, you should mention the much more expensive Corporate Welfare. Stop pretending to care about tax dollars and ignore the fact that the Billionaires are much more expensive and corrupt than poor people.

Boilerman

Dec 26, 2014
7:53pm

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Welfare is a net giveaway of money. The government is not giving away any money to the alcohol industry. The writer goes further and explains that he doesn't believe that business should be allowed to account for business expenses. Are we to now tax them on revenues and not profit?

How silly.

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Originally posted by: Number51
"Welfare Queens? Welfare Kings Rule the Land
Big corporations take the cake (and everything else) when it comes to welfare."

U.S. News & World Report

"Since "welfare queens" and the idea of "givers versus takers" are the topics "du jour" again, let's look at the forgotten takers: the "welfare kings" on the corporate side."

If you want to complain about Social Welfare and have any credibility, you should mention the much more expensive Corporate Welfare. Stop pretending to care about tax dollars and ignore the fact that the Billionaires are much more expensive and corrupt than poor people.

Number51

Dec 27, 2014
11:46am

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Welfare is a net giveaway of money. The government is not giving away any money to the alcohol industry. The writer goes further and explains that he doesn't believe that business should be allowed to account for business expenses. Are we to now tax them on revenues and not profit?

How silly.

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Originally posted by: Number51
"Welfare Queens? Welfare Kings Rule the Land
Big corporations take the cake (and everything else) when it comes to welfare."

U.S. News & World Report

"Since "welfare queens" and the idea of "givers versus takers" are the topics "du jour" again, let's look at the forgotten takers: the "welfare kings" on the corporate side."

If you want to complain about Social Welfare and have any credibility, you should mention the much more expensive Corporate Welfare. Stop pretending to care about tax dollars and ignore the fact that the Billionaires are much more expensive and corrupt than poor people.

Yes, the U.S. News & World Report is well known for their silliness.

BobOrme

Dec 27, 2014
12:21pm

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Credibility is questionable when this is the guy being published... Jimmy Williams is executive editor of Blue Nation Review and an MSNBC political contributor.

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Originally posted by: Number51 Yes, the U.S. News & World Report is well known for their silliness.

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