Terrible's: Not so terrible opportunity, or not?

Quote

Originally posted by: MoneyLA
.... OR are you telling me that you are starting with a $2,000 bankroll?

If you start with a 2,000 bankroll this is what happens:

Day 1. You start with a 2,000 bankroll. Bet 1,000 lose 900 after the 100 rebate.

Day 2. You start with a 1,100 bankroll. If you win 1,000 you would have 2,100 but you would only have a net profit of $100 because you started with 2,000.


Anyone who would play for this offer at the $1000.00 limit, should/would have a bankroll large enough to finances losses for a minimum of several days.

IF not, well, that may be considered reckless gambling by some. Certainly would not be considered advantage play, or exploitation of a rebate offer.

OK, so you have a 2,000 or larger bankroll:

day 1: bet 1,000 lose 1,000 get 100 rebate bankroll reduced to 1,100

day 2: bet 1,000 win 1,000 bankroll now 2,100

is that the strategy?
You might as well burn this one out because like most too good to be true offers it will be yanked as soon as they figure out the math. Just like the welfare checks at Southpoint or that 300 for 300 deal at the Westin.
My philosophy on match plays, lucly bucks and new member deals is to burn them out before they get yanked.
Why would they yank this? they are only giving the 10% rebate on losses -- not on wins. the casino has nothing to lose and 90% to gain. all they are doing is cutting their profit margin by 10%.


What's the great deal about losing a grand and getting 100 back? Sure it takes the sting out, but you're still out 900.
Quote

Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Why would they yank this? they are only giving the 10% rebate on losses -- not on wins. the casino has nothing to lose and 90% to gain. all they are doing is cutting their profit margin by 10%.


You're assuming that players who would take advantage of the rebate only lose. As Roadtrip implied, if a person placed a single bet there every day, the overall house advantage is cut by 5%....because some days the advantage players lose and get the rebate and some days they win. In certain games an extra 5% for the player sends the casino profits negative.
Sorry.

Changed my mind about what I was going to say.


a rebate of 100 dollars on a thousand dollar loss does not increase any player's edge. what kind of creative finance is this?

a rebate of 100 dollars on a thousand dollar loss decreases the house's profit margin.

yikes. are we talking about "silly math" here guys? are you trying to tell me that losing makes you a bigger winner?

edited to add: if a casino were to give a "bonus" on top of a win (such as what happens in a progressive jackpot in video poker) THAT would increase the player's edge. but no amount of rebate, unless it is more than 100% of the loss, would increase a player's edge or advantage.
Quote

Originally posted by: MoneyLA

a rebate of 100 dollars on a thousand dollar loss does not increase any player's edge. what kind of creative finance is this?

a rebate of 100 dollars on a thousand dollar loss decreases the house's profit margin.

yikes. are we talking about "silly math" here guys? are you trying to tell me that losing makes you a bigger winner?

edited to add: if a casino were to give a "bonus" on top of a win (such as what happens in a progressive jackpot in video poker) THAT would increase the player's edge. but no amount of rebate, unless it is more than 100% of the loss, would increase a player's edge or advantage.


Ok Money. Let's play a little game. You get to play the casino. Over the next 30 days, we'll flip a coin every night. The bet will be $50 per night. Only thing is, you give me a 50% rebate on any of my losses, but I keep all my wins. Since you believe NO amount of rebate will increase the player's edge and you think we're talking 'silly math' here...let's start tonight!

Just keep saying to yourself...AlanLeroy doesn't have an edge...I just have a smaller profit margin.
I know exactly what youre talking about. But there is no coin-flip game in a casino. The casino has an edge on every bet. So please separate your theory from the reality. The reality is -- will this rebate system work for a player at Terrible's? No it won't.

I appreciate the discussion about math theory, but all of this theory discussion was connected to an actual casino betting and rebate system.
Already a LVA subscriber?
To continue reading, choose an option below:
Diamond Membership
$3 per month
Unlimited access to LVA website
Exclusive subscriber-only content
Limited Member Rewards Online
Join Now
or
Platinum Membership
$50 per year
Unlimited access to LVA website
Exclusive subscriber-only content
Exclusive Member Rewards Book
Join Now