Texas Gang Fight

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DonDiego's post informed the reader that the State of Texas does not allow one to carry an assault rifle into a Chili's, . . . contrary to Mr. Maher's assertion.



I would point Don Diego to this article.

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The showdown has taken place foremost in Texas, where in recent months groups such as Open Carry Texas have conducted provocative demonstrations in which armed men exercise their right under state law to carry semi-automatic rifles in public.


Open Carry Texas

They have You Tube videos too.
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Originally posted by: forkushVThey were thus able to find a safe place to land, because they knew that had to be DonDiego's house. Why? Because the person in the window had given them information that was completely accurate...and utterly useless.


Yes, screw accuracy. There's an agenda to promote!
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Originally posted by: Campion
So in the eulogy for these guys, do the family members say "well they died doing what they loved"?


Wired on meth, drunk on cheap beer, and surrounded by busty women - who wouldn't love to go that way?

Saw a crop of Bandidos on Saturday, headed down the interstate. Funny about the spelling on their colors. I know, (disclaimer--I think I know) what a bandito is. I wonder what a 'bandido' is. Enlightenment by any spanish speaking member is welcome.

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Originally posted by: malibber2
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DonDiego's post informed the reader that the State of Texas does not allow one to carry an assault rifle into a Chili's, . . . contrary to Mr. Maher's assertion.

I would point Don Diego to this article.
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The showdown has taken place foremost in Texas, where in recent months groups such as Open Carry Texas have conducted provocative demonstrations in which armed men exercise their right under state law to carry semi-automatic rifles in public.
Open Carry TexasThey have You Tube videos too.
Nothing in malibber2's post contradicts what DonDiego has stated.

Perhaps the confusion stems from the definition of an "assault rifle".

Since the appearance of fully-automatic weapons within military organizations they have been called "assault rifles". Examples include the United States M-16 deployed during the Vietnam War and the old Soviet Union AK-47.
if a long gun cannot fire fully-automatic it is, . . . or was, . . . by definition not an assault rifle.

-------An Aside-------
The confusion originated in 1994, when the Assault Weapons Ban [AWB] was passed in Congress. Led by Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) a group of Congresspeople "redefined" the term by specifying a bunch of weapon characteristics which would make a semi-automatic firearms an "assault weapon" subject to the ban:
__Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher mount
__Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
__Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Detachable magazine

Several of these new criteria are simply cosmetic and have no effect on the weapon operation. Essentially the AWB defined an assault weapon as a semi-automatic weapon that looked scary because of a pistol grip or a bayonet mount. n.b. One could have a pistol grip or a bayonet mount, but not both. And if the weapon did not have a detachable magazine it could have a folding stock and a pistol grip and a bayonet mount and a flash suppressor. Just silly.

The AWB expired in 2004, as did its amateurish definition of an assault weapon.
---End-of-the-Aside---

So nowadays, . . . in 2015, . . . i.e. now, Open Carry Texas members are "demonstrating" by exercising their right under state law to carry semi-automatic rifles in public. This is perfectly legal. NOW.
n.b.Between 1994 and 2004 some of these weapons were in fact banned by the AWB if, f'rinstance, the rifle had had a threaded barrel and a folding stock.

The only thing that should be at all bothersome or controversial is the demonstrators' intent to carry their weapons openly into businesses like Starbucks and Jack-in-the-Box. DonDiego opines business owners should have the right to prohibit folks from entering their establishment armed openly; most States specifically agree, and some even instruct businessmen on appropriate signage to prohibit open carry on their premises.
In any case if a business chooses to not allow open cary on the premises, that should be respected.
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Originally posted by: malibber2
I believe the establishment in question qualifies as a restaurant making them legal. That restaurant is like Hooters. Concealed carry + alcohol and half naked women. What could possibly go wrong? To me it is bizarre to say the restaurant needed to keep them out. Most bikers aren't gang members and in fact it is high income demographic so it makes perfect sense a place like this would have a bikers night. Are the minimum wage workers in the place supposed to interrogate everyone that comes in? How would that work? "Sir are you affiliated with an outlaw biker gang?" They can't remove of them because they have guns so on what basis are you going to ask them to leave?


Boy you really don't know much about it do you Mal? Whenever there's any kind of big biker event, the sponsor/owner whatever will post, very clearly, NO COLORS ,that means no patches. I know many "bikers", they're just normal everyday mostly blue collar folks. Have you ever seen or heard of "rolling thunder"?That's the bulk of bikers.

As usual you want to twist crap all into your somewhat warped point of view. I would venture to guess 99% of CCW folks carry only for any type of defense, not for any overt criminal activity. Have you ever been to gun show? Lotsa normal folks milling around checking things out, not much different than a car show really, just different kinds of enthusiasts.

EDIT TO ADD: I do believe that more people carrying makes for a safer society but only those who've had the proper training.

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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Blah, . . . Blah, . . . Blah, . . . . Because the person in the window had given them information that was completely accurate...and utterly useless.

Au contraire.

DonDiego's post informed the reader that the State of Texas does not allow one to carry an assault rifle into a Chili's, . . . contrary to Mr. Maher's assertion...
Fact checking a comedian's hyperbole. How useful!
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Originally posted by: malibber2
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DonDiego's post informed the reader that the State of Texas does not allow one to carry an assault rifle into a Chili's, . . . contrary to Mr. Maher's assertion.



I would point Don Diego to this article.

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The showdown has taken place foremost in Texas, where in recent months groups such as Open Carry Texas have conducted provocative demonstrations in which armed men exercise their right under state law to carry semi-automatic rifles in public.


Open Carry Texas

They have You Tube videos too.


So what? here's a group of older guys who ,once a month,holster up and go to eat at a local pizza place that is frequented by the cops for lunch as well.(It's my favorite pizza place also, best in no va). I've eaten there on more than one occasion when we were all there at the same time. Guess what? Not a thing happened, not at all. Cops didn't look twice, neither did the openly armed folks. Everyone ate in perfect harmony. A few folks who weren't used to it did look twice for about 20 seconds then went on about there business. Wait..what was your point again? I'd like to know who claimed it "provocative" also the Mother Jones reporter?

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Originally posted by: chafraho
Saw a crop of Bandidos on Saturday, headed down the interstate. Funny about the spelling on their colors. I know, (disclaimer--I think I know) what a bandito is. I wonder what a 'bandido' is. Enlightenment by any spanish speaking member is welcome.


That's pretty funny. Better than going with "Frido's", the snack food club. Guess that's not as menacing.

I bet this is the perfect reason for Obama to go ahead ,invade and take over Tx. A few unruly bikers got killed in a brawl between gangs. I suppose he should go ahead and take over Chicago while he's at it(leave the rest of Ill. alone), There's been how many killings so far this year? How about, you just eliminate any kind of CCW and institute some really, really serious firearm laws. That should solve the problem, right?
Shouldn't the same gun banning laws that some tout curb all these nasty people shooting one another? Hmm...anyone want to take a stab why Chi town is the murder capitol (mostly black on black) but has some of the most stringent laws? I'd really like to hear it.
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