This can't be good

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Originally posted by: arcimedes

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Originally posted by: malibber
I notice you didn't address my point about why the converse isn't true. That is with decreasing taxes on corporations how come prices don't fall? I'll tell you why, and its because prices have very little to do with tax rates, but they have everything to do with supply and demand. Corporations charge as much as they can get away charging and taking away their special lobbied for breaks and credits wouldn’t suddenly allow them to charge more. Talk about blindly following simplistic talking points.

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There was no "point" to address. You made a silly assertion with absolutely zero supporting evidence. Give me a case example that proves your point. Excuse me if I don't hold my breath as I already know you are just repeating something you read on puffho or thedailymoss.

Don't get me wrong. The right has just as many robots as the left. However, on this subject the left is the one out to lunch.

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Originally posted by: INdianapaddler

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Originally posted by: melbedewy

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Originally posted by: INdianapaddler

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Originally posted by: melbedewy

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Originally posted by: KayPea

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Originally posted by: arcimedes
If our society collapses a good portion of the world will likely starve. So, I don't see that in the the cards, at least not in the foreseeable future.

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The US is "too big to fail".

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People are in denial. No society can survive 5 BILLION dollars a day in borrowing. No society can survive open borders and gold plated social welfare benefits to every Third World illiterate who can sneak over the border. Or a "defense" budget equal to the other 200+ countries of the world combined. Or an unsustainable retirement and health care system.
We will not recognize this country in 10 years, 15 top. There will either be a quasi-fascistic takeover by patriots who will solve our fiscal problems forcefully and brutally expel all illegals and Anchor Babies or we will slowly deteriorate like the other once great fallen empires of recorded history.

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So our undocumented aliens are the modern equivalent of the Jews of Nazi Germany, and the solution is to find our own home-grown Hitler to "brutally" expel them and their U.S. citizen children. Wow, what a black cloud you have in your heart (if you have one). Hell, why not just gas them in our own concentration camps, that way we can make sure they don't sneak across the border again.

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It's creatures like you that have caused the insanity we are in. Go to China (or Mexico for that matter) and put your hand out to demand a free apartment, food stamps, free doctors, babysitters, schools etc. PLUS citizenship for your kids and see how quickly your hand will be chopped off.
By the way, "undocumented aliens" are those who have misplaced their Green Cards. I am talking about ILLEGAL aliens and yes because of people like you they and their children will either "brutally" be expelled or we will continue to sink as a nation towards the level of El Salvador and Guatemala. Personally, because the something for nothing mentality of the "progressives", coupled with the squeamishness of too many of the so called conservatives, I expect the latter is more likely.

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Your ignorance would be laughable if it weren't so pathetic.

Undocumented aliens are entitled to nothing of the sort. No free apartments, food stamps, free doctors (except for emergency room care on a humanitarian basis, but I doubt you know what the word "humanitarian" means), not free babysitters, schools (beyond high school because ignorance is more expensive than educating these children).

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Originally posted by: malibber
The only silly assertion is the notion that corporations don't pay income taxes. Its about as bad as the assertion if you cut taxes government revenues will go up.

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Originally posted by: melbedewy
By the way, the children of ILLEGAL aliens are not citizens since they are subject to the jurisdiction of Mexico, Guatemala or whatever vermin infested sinkhole they come from.

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot

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Originally posted by: melbedewy
By the way, the children of ILLEGAL aliens are not citizens since they are subject to the jurisdiction of Mexico, Guatemala or whatever vermin infested sinkhole they come from.

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melbedewy,

I am not familiar with your writings here. But if the above is any indication, you're comfortable leading us to conclude you're a xenophobic ignoramous, one beyond the reach of logic and reason. Anyone who employs rationality with you in these forums seems likely to wind up very frustrated.

So I provide this for others:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

U.S. Constitution, Amendment XIV, Sec. 1

The modifying phrase "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" referred to children born to foreign diplomats (applying the same international legal fiction that a foreign embassy within the one country is legally the land of the foreign nation), and to American Indians who were still rejecting federal authority in the days following the civil war. They're not citizens.

This is why there's a move afoot in some quarters to amend this passage of the constitution: the current status of children born to foreigners within the United State is clear, and some don't like it and want change.

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Originally posted by: malibber
I provided two news stories to back up my points. You have offered no such evidence to support your wild assertion. You are merely parroting the standard right wing talking points that were designed to appeal to simple minded dolts that lack the ability to critically think.

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot

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Originally posted by: melbedewy
By the way, the children of ILLEGAL aliens are not citizens since they are subject to the jurisdiction of Mexico, Guatemala or whatever vermin infested sinkhole they come from.

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melbedewy,

I am not familiar with your writings here. But if the above is any indication, you're comfortable leading us to conclude you're a xenophobic ignoramous, one beyond the reach of logic and reason. Anyone who employs rationality with you in these forums seems likely to wind up very frustrated.

So I provide this for others:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

U.S. Constitution, Amendment XIV, Sec. 1

The modifying phrase "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" referred to children born to foreign diplomats (applying the same international legal fiction that a foreign embassy within the one country is legally the land of the foreign nation), and to American Indians who were still rejecting federal authority in the days following the civil war. They're not citizens.

This is why there's a move afoot in some quarters to amend this passage of the constitution: the current status of children born to foreigners within the United State is clear, and some don't like it and want change.

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Originally posted by: INdianapaddler
Chilcoot, do not bother with this nativist idiot. Logic and reason mean nothing to him. Hatred of Latinos oozes out him. Being a Cuban-American myself, I take it very personal, but I think I will put this gasbag on ignore.

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