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This Lois Lerner email saga is going to be so much fun!

jatki
jatki
Dec 22, 2014
9:42am
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
If you looked back at a bunch of past Monster posts, you would realize that she was being far from genuine.


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Originally posted by: jatki99
Gotta say i'm with melon on this one, in other words....HUH??
What did Ellen do to get you riled so easily?


So just ignore it and move on, I'm more interested in the original topic of the thread. I doubt however that anything will come of the whole IRS deal. Very unfortunate. Lerner actually should be brought back and made to testify, her whole opening statement was inappropriate when she pled the fifth.

O2bnVegas
O2bnVegas
Dec 22, 2014
10:10am
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
An email quote from Lerner...............“met with top officials from the DOJ’s Election Crimes Branch in October of 2010. Although Judicial Watch filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the DOJ, the DOJ coughed up dirt only on court order. Even then, the DOJ handed over only two pages of heavily redacted emails.”


An FOI request is not a lawsuit, it is a request to an agency from the citizenry for disclosure of certain records. It does have the legal backing of the FOI Act. The extent of detail an agency is required to include in their response depends on a lot of things, including precisely what is requested. The FOI Act has been amended many times since it began, including the Privacy laws (of which there are many) which can shield or limit disclosure of certain facts, names, etc., hence the redacting. The agency doesn't just throw open all their books and say have at it.

There are also FOI requests at state levels, often submitted by news media to...state agencies, businesses...anybody. Or somebody may submit an FOI request to a media organization.
Terry Locke
Terry Locke
Dec 22, 2014
11:08am
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Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
An email quote from Lerner...............“met with top officials from the DOJ’s Election Crimes Branch in October of 2010. Although Judicial Watch filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the DOJ, the DOJ coughed up dirt only on court order. Even then, the DOJ handed over only two pages of heavily redacted emails.”


An FOI request is not a lawsuit, it is a request to an agency from the citizenry for disclosure of certain records. It does have the legal backing of the FOI Act. The extent of detail an agency is required to include in their response depends on a lot of things, including precisely what is requested. The FOI Act has been amended many times since it began, including the Privacy laws (of which there are many) which can shield or limit disclosure of certain facts, names, etc., hence the redacting. The agency doesn't just throw open all their books and say have at it.

There are also FOI requests at state levels, often submitted by news media to...state agencies, businesses...anybody. Or somebody may submit an FOI request to a media organization.


As a person who fields FOIA requests all the time, I can say that you've summed things up nicely.

chefantwon
chefantwon
Dec 23, 2014
8:35am
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Once again, Monster knowingly clicks on a political topic and then complains about the topic. Does she just like to whine?


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Originally posted by: EllenMonster
Merry Christmas.



Once again, the Republican war on women (powered by Purdueman) rears it's ugly head !


Gee and your party is paying what????

O2bnVegas
O2bnVegas
Dec 23, 2014
9:37am
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Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
An email quote from Lerner...............“met with top officials from the DOJ’s Election Crimes Branch in October of 2010. Although Judicial Watch filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the DOJ, the DOJ coughed up dirt only on court order. Even then, the DOJ handed over only two pages of heavily redacted emails.”


An FOI request is not a lawsuit, it is a request to an agency from the citizenry for disclosure of certain records. It does have the legal backing of the FOI Act. The extent of detail an agency is required to include in their response depends on a lot of things, including precisely what is requested. The FOI Act has been amended many times since it began, including the Privacy laws (of which there are many) which can shield or limit disclosure of certain facts, names, etc., hence the redacting. The agency doesn't just throw open all their books and say have at it.

There are also FOI requests at state levels, often submitted by news media to...state agencies, businesses...anybody. Or somebody may submit an FOI request to a media organization.


As a person who fields FOIA requests all the time, I can say that you've summed things up nicely.


Thanks Terry. That must be a rather stressful part of your job.
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