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Originally posted by: pjstroh
OK - so you've now backpedaled your argument from saying Hillary doesn't have a platform of reigning in special interest groups..... now you concede she does but you just don't believe her. OK, fine. I cant help you with that or the fact that you wont acknowledge Trump's 1.5 million in pay-for-play contributions over the last 10 years.
And I'm not sure what data you've seen that shows freshmen officials being less influenced by special interest money than veteran officials. Talk about naive. You wont find a bigger puppet of the Koch brothers anti-climate data talking points than freshman Senators, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.
But the fact remains....if you had a bill to kill Citizen's united and the revolving door in Washington Democrats and the sitting president would sign it today. Republicans would not.
Democrats create the bill Alan supports....but Alan cant acknowledge it
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Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuoteSoooo, the person who leads in donations from Wall Street intends to end the revolving door between Wall Street and DC Regulators by ending Golden Parachutes? Oh yeah. That's tough. Naïve much?
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
I don't see any candidate arguing for Term Limits and an end to the revolving door between Government Jobs and these Lobbying firms, so it's hard to believe the Democrats or Republicans are serious about ending the influence peddling in Washington DC. But dream on PJ.
Thats because the Rupert Murdoch News sources you get your centrist information from don't point out how your false equivalencies are just that:
Hillary supports legislation ending the revolving door in Washington
Facts aren't only cheap - they're free. You just need to know how to use the internet.
Is this the same Hillary whose husband Bill supported and signed into law the repeal of Glass Steagall? The same Hillary who rakes in high 6 figure speeches to these same bankers....and what did she actually say to these folks in her expensive speeches? How can you possibly believe she's serious about ending influence peddling in Washington. She says this shit at the same time she's having $1000 a plate fundraisers with the evil lobbyists. It's just pathetic.
We need Term Limits. We need to ban former Government Employees from working for Lobbying firms and the reverse....Period. What we're getting is nice political rhetoric from the bought and paid for political class.
And...I'll add that malibber2 is exactly right when he states that many in the Republican establishment would rather Hillary get elected than to risk Trump potentially disrupting their perpetual cash cows. Some of those highly paid 'political consultants' might actually have to start doing productive work for a change.
OK - so you've now backpedaled your argument from saying Hillary doesn't have a platform of reigning in special interest groups..... now you concede she does but you just don't believe her. OK, fine. I cant help you with that or the fact that you wont acknowledge Trump's 1.5 million in pay-for-play contributions over the last 10 years.
And I'm not sure what data you've seen that shows freshmen officials being less influenced by special interest money than veteran officials. Talk about naive. You wont find a bigger puppet of the Koch brothers anti-climate data talking points than freshman Senators, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.
But the fact remains....if you had a bill to kill Citizen's united and the revolving door in Washington Democrats and the sitting president would sign it today. Republicans would not.
Democrats create the bill Alan supports....but Alan cant acknowledge it
LOL..eh...Where EXACTLY did I say 'Hillary doesn't have a 'platform' of reigning in special interest groups. In fact I just keep pointing out how her actions don't match her words.
First I said: "we're (Democrats are) better than the Republicans because some of our politicians who are owned by the lobbyists are against our politicians being owned by the lobbyists."
Then I continued to point out how Hillary takes more money than anyone from the Wall Street Bankers, How her husband with help from the Republicans deregulated these bankers, and how she rakes in millions speaking to Wall Street Bankers. You know....How her actions don't match her words...and how you are naïve to think she is serious about ending the money train.
Why didn't the Democrats just fix this when they had control of both houses of congress and the White House? Because they didn't really want to...that's why. Neither do the Republicans. Duh. When someone starts talking about term limits and actually banning people from ever moving from Lobbyist to Government or the Reverse, then I'll start listening. In the meantime it's just lip service...and hypocritical lip service at that.
First I said: "we're (Democrats are) better than the Republicans because some of our politicians who are owned by the lobbyists are against our politicians being owned by the lobbyists."
Then I continued to point out how Hillary takes more money than anyone from the Wall Street Bankers, How her husband with help from the Republicans deregulated these bankers, and how she rakes in millions speaking to Wall Street Bankers. You know....How her actions don't match her words...and how you are naïve to think she is serious about ending the money train.
Why didn't the Democrats just fix this when they had control of both houses of congress and the White House? Because they didn't really want to...that's why. Neither do the Republicans. Duh. When someone starts talking about term limits and actually banning people from ever moving from Lobbyist to Government or the Reverse, then I'll start listening. In the meantime it's just lip service...and hypocritical lip service at that.
