Tonight’s Republican Debate

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Originally posted by: hoops2
forky is changing the subject again
Yeah, from Hillary's age to Hillary's life expectancy. Huge leap, huh?

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Originally posted by: lvfritz
PJ,

Facts are difficult things for you I know.....but let me ask a simple question of you, if I may.....if the younger voters and broader spectrum are so supportive and important to the Dems, how have the Dems managed to lose control of both houses?

Honestly, listening to you suggest strategy to the Republicans is almost, not quite, but almost as funny as trying to listen Hillary speak two coherent sentences without her needing a good dose of truth serum.


Its pretty easy to explain.
1) Democrats lose 33 house seats despite winning the popular vote. This is the result of heavily gerrymandered districts where scumbag Republicans draw district maps that undermine democracy.
Politifact can explain to you how it works.

2) Republicans let the voting rights act expire and have since violated it on several fronts. This is coupled with strict laws that make it harder for minorities to vote. One recent example of many - ALabama now requires ID to vote...and the governor proceeded to shut down BMV branches in black neighborhoods.
https://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/10/gov_bentley_says_decision_to_c.html

3) Young people and minorities don't vote in the same proportion as angry white guys with tea bags on their hats - aNd shame on them for that. But statisitics don't lie. There is no "if" in my description of the demographics in the data. Its a matter of record. https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/changing-demographics-tilt-toward-democrats-eventually-n455036
Tell the truth PJ. You are seeing a whole team of Democratic operatives, aren't you. You really want to talk gerrymandering to a guy from suburban Chicago? Are you saying that ONLY Republicans gerrymander?
Point two, OMG having to show ID to vote, how radical! Try cashing a check without ID. Try renting a car, getting on a plane......yeah, I know it's a hassle for seniors.....but we both KNOW it's just bullshit from the left. If you can't show ID, stay home.

When you get done with the operatives PJ, try getting some help.....there are people who can respectfully disagree on some things. You are not one of those and at this point, neither am I, so I'll just call a spade a spade, you're in serious danger of falling over the edge. I am neither Republican, nor too old, and not the least bit angry......but people can only handle so much of your bullshit.
The Republicans won another governorship tonight. Can't blame gerrymandering on that.

I agree with Fritz that the requirement to vote should be the same standard as the one casinos require to get a free buffet.


Any objection to voter ID is about the weakest argument, ever. It is absolutely, positively the lamest excuse against anything else other than crying foul. Serioisly, at this point, after this long, every single person is aware of the voter ID laws. If by some miracle some of these ancient civil war vets haven't yet been able to secure a picture ID by now, it would be because of A) They don't really care and it just doesn't mean that much or B)..umm, lemme see..B.. I dunno, I'm lost, anyone have any ideas for B?

I think the Feds have bent over backwards to make sure photo IDs' are readily accessible, to say that the elderly are so restricted is ,again, absurd. Plus, would the two dozen guys who legitimately couldn't obtain a photo ID make that big a difference in anything more than a local school bd. election?

Have you looked at Hillary Clinton, for God's sake? That squishy little goblin doesn't have much tread left on the tires.


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Originally posted by: forkushV
American women outlive men by about five years, so Hillary's life expectancy is on par with Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, and John Kasich.

And for the age bigots out there, statistically speaking a President Trump could be expected to die before the end of his second term.


This is such a typical strategy for Liberals on this site. Don't Liberals do a self reflective "double take", questioning why they can't make a substantive argument, but instead must rely on changing the subject?


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Originally posted by: hoops2
forky is changing the subject again


I've never heard Liberals protesting that old folks can't fly for a lack of photo ID. They have proven that crooked, criminal, and lying Hillary is their girl, so honesty is certain no concern with this group. Liberal are always looking for ways to cheat, and this attempt is quite transparent.


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Originally posted by: jatki99
Any objection to voter ID is about the weakest argument, ever. It is absolutely, positively the lamest excuse against anything else other than crying foul. Serioisly, at this point, after this long, every single person is aware of the voter ID laws. If by some miracle some of these ancient civil war vets haven't yet been able to secure a picture ID by now, it would be because of A) They don't really care and it just doesn't mean that much or B)..umm, lemme see..B.. I dunno, I'm lost, anyone have any ideas for B?

I think the Feds have bent over backwards to make sure photo IDs' are readily accessible, to say that the elderly are so restricted is ,again, absurd. Plus, would the two dozen guys who legitimately couldn't obtain a photo ID make that big a difference in anything more than a local school bd. election?


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Originally posted by: jatki99
Any objection to voter ID is about the weakest argument, ever. It is absolutely, positively the lamest excuse against anything else other than crying foul. Serioisly, at this point, after this long, every single person is aware of the voter ID laws. If by some miracle some of these ancient civil war vets haven't yet been able to secure a picture ID by now, it would be because of A) They don't really care and it just doesn't mean that much or B)..umm, lemme see..B.. I dunno, I'm lost, anyone have any ideas for B?

I think the Feds have bent over backwards to make sure photo IDs' are readily accessible, to say that the elderly are so restricted is ,again, absurd. Plus, would the two dozen guys who legitimately couldn't obtain a photo ID make that big a difference in anything more than a local school bd. election?


Hey, how else are the felons and the deceased going to vote for Hillary?

I think of other countries where people stand in lines for many hours in order to vote. If someone refuses to go and get a photo id, then they shouldn't vote. They also should not be able to get on an airplane, or do anything else that requires a photo id.
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Originally posted by: hoops2
The Republicans won another governorship tonight. Can't blame gerrymandering on that.

I agree with Fritz that the requirement to vote should be the same standard as the one casinos require to get a free buffet.


Well, then its settled ! The site's Fox news crowd all agrees . Lets go have a beer!
The constitution doesn't say anything about ID's...and I could go into the million reasons why its difficult for many people to obtain one - but why bother? If Republicans were serious about modernizing the voting system they would support technology to allow people to remotely vote from any internet terminal...or telephone. You wont find any such Republican because Republicans understand that when voter turnout is big - they lose. And when voter turnout is small (last night) they win.

BTW - ask your favorite Republican legislator/Presidential candidate/mouth breather if he thinks an ID should be required for a private gun sale. You'll get a different answer then the one he gives you on the topic of voting.

Good luck in 2016 with...Donald Trump.
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