Trump done a good thing

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Originally posted by: billryan
I'd start with eliminating Medicare. That would have a secondary benefit of Seniors not living so long and reducing social security payouts.
Excellent. Finally someone has stepped up to the plate and offered to cut something. These two suggestions are prb'ly enough to balance the budget just by themselves.


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Originally posted by: billryan
Next, I would bring back the Green Card Warrior program.
DonDiego is unfamiliar with this program.


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Originally posted by: billryan
Then I would adopt a new calender. Each month would have thirty days. By eliminating five days a year, savings would be substantial. People would benefit by working five less days, and the gubmint would save by paying its employees five fewer days. Win-Win.
DonDiego has no objection. However, the present calendar is based upon actual astronomical observations; in about 30 years Christmas would have moved to the warmest months of the BillRyan Calendar.
Some citizens might notice the change.
Another company in Indy is threatening to go to Mexico -REXNORD. This one is only a couple miles from my house and I have neighbors who work there. Trump is threatening consequences now if they leave.

I sincerely hope he succeeds in keeping them around. Like Carrier Rexnord would rather employ people at $2.50 and hour in Mexico.

TRUMP tells REXNORD sever consequences for going to Mexico

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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: billryan
I'd start with eliminating Medicare. That would have a secondary benefit of Seniors not living so long and reducing social security payouts.
Excellent. Finally someone has stepped up to the plate and offered to cut something. These two suggestions are prb'ly enough to balance the budget just by themselves.


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Originally posted by: billryan
Next, I would bring back the Green Card Warrior program.
DonDiego is unfamiliar with this program.


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Originally posted by: billryan
Then I would adopt a new calender. Each month would have thirty days. By eliminating five days a year, savings would be substantial. People would benefit by working five less days, and the gubmint would save by paying its employees five fewer days. Win-Win.
DonDiego has no objection. However, the present calendar is based upon actual astronomical observations; in about 30 years Christmas would have moved to the warmest months of the BillRyan Calendar.
Some citizens might notice the change.


Without Medicare, the citizens who remember snow at Christmas would be dead.
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Originally posted by: billryan
Without Medicare, the citizens who remember snow at Christmas would be dead.

billryan's holiday spirit moves poor old DonDiego.


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
TRUMP tells REXNORD sever consequences for going to Mexico

Based upon "the deal" with Carrier and the State of Indiana, it seems President-Elect Trump is skilled at bringing parties together to negotiate an outcome agreeable to the involved parties.

On the other hand the "threat" that a "35% tax will be placed on products sold in the US by any business that fired American workers, and built a factory elsewhere"* would require more than just President-Elect Trump's unilateral declaration, . . . like, f'rinstance, legislative changes to the Internal Revenue Service tax codes. DonDiego supposes this might not be likely, . . . even with a Republican majority in both Houses of Congress.

*bbc.com

DonDiego would prefer he stick with the deal-negotiation strategy.

DonDiego notes two things:
i. Mr. Trump isn't even President yet, and he got Carrier to stay in Indiana. HE DID SOMETHING !
ii. DonDiego cannot comprehend The Hillary behaving in such a direct unorthodox negotiation; she'd need to convene a meeting of multifarious Government Offices and Bureaucracies before she'd even start such a process, . . . chiefly to cover her ass like a proper Government Official if things didn't work out.
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Originally posted by: DonDiegoOn the other hand the "threat" that a "35% tax will be placed on products sold in the US by any business that fired American workers, and built a factory elsewhere"* would require more than just President-Elect Trump's unilateral declaration .
He'll have a pen and a phone. What more does he need? He can declare an economic emergency or claim we're at war somewhere.

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ii. DonDiego cannot comprehend The Hillary behaving in such a direct unorthodox negotiation; .


You and me both. Can you imagine if Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton made a threat to a free market company about their legal business decisions? I'm pretty sure the entire morning crew on CNBC would secede their TV station from the union.

I sincerely applaud Mr Trump's leftist interventions. He'll have to do it 1000 times over before he can match the US Manufacturing jobs saved by the current administration's intervention with the automobile industry in 2009. I seem to recall DonDiego having a very different perspective on the proper role of government then.

But people evolve. Sometimes we can get past the partisan hyperbole and team-politics that's so easy to fall into. I suspect I will disagree with Trump many times over the next 4 years - but I will certainly try to recognize any good things he does too . His tough stance on outsourcing is a good thing thus far.




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Originally posted by: DonDiego

ii. DonDiego cannot comprehend The Hillary behaving in such a direct unorthodox negotiation; .


You and me both. Can you imagine if Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton made a threat to a free market company about their legal business decisions? I'm pretty sure the entire morning crew on CNBC would secede their TV station from the union.

I sincerely applaud Mr Trump's leftist interventions. He'll have to do it 1000 times over before he can match the US Manufacturing jobs saved by the current administration's intervention with the automobile industry in 2009. I seem to recall DonDiego having a very different perspective on the proper role of government then.

But people evolve. Sometimes we can get past the partisan hyperbole and team-politics that's so easy to fall into. I suspect I will disagree with Trump many times over the next 4 years - but I will certainly try to recognize any good things he does too . His tough stance on outsourcing is a good thing thus far.
Oh goodness !

i. The Role of Government

DonDiego's thoughts on the proper role of Government is that it should be minimal.
With specific regard to "business", the ideal would be free-markets in which individuals and businesses, comprising individuals, compete with one another with little Government interference. Unfortunately the real world of real people requires some regulation.

Consider IF President-Elect Trump were to duplicate his "success" with Carrier 1000 times, . . . the 1000 tax breaks to 1000 companies would stimulate production of goods and services, allow lower prices to customers, and require a significant reduction in Government, as there'd be 1000-times less tax revenue to operate the Government.
This simply won't happen. Because it can't. The Government won't permit it. Too bad.

So, on the surface the Carrier "deal" looks great, . . . lower taxes allow livable wages for the employees and sufficient profit to maintain the company. And lower taxes on every company in Indiana would be even greater, but the burden of too-much Government won't permit this. So Carrier benefits, . . . maybe Rexnord'll benefit, . . . but soon, very soon it will become apparent that the Government of Indiana as presently constituted is unsustainable if everyone who should be freed from the burden of excessive taxation were.

DonDiego's "perspective on the proper role of Government" remains the same, . . . smaller, less intrusive, less expensive, . . . is better.
If the reduction of Carrier's tax burden were to result in a correspondent reduction in Indiana's Government, and this could be duplicated 1000 times, . . . or 100,000 times, . . . the World would be a better place. And Indiana would be nirvana.
But the appropriate order of things would be to reduce the Government first and let the benefits of that flow into the economy.

ii. Getting Things Done

DonDiego's citation of the behavior of President-Elect Trump vs The-Not-President-Elect-Hillary is an acknowledgement that President-Elect Trump wants to get things done as a successful businessman might - i.e. negotiate a deal.

The Hillary would first-and-foremost protect herself from any personal misfortune by surrounding herself with committees and layers of bureaucracy to share the blame if things go wrong, provide herself a private/secure computer operation to guarantee privacy of any/all communication so that she cannot be held responsible for any possible failure, and then expand the Government in some way so as to distribute wealth to designated recipients.

iii. Getting Things Backwards

DonDiego would prefer the first step were to reduce Government and allow the benefits to descend unto all the citizens and corporations.
If, in fact, the Carrier tax-reduction led to an equivalent reduction in Government and could be duplicated with sufficient repetition the result would be the same, . . . just backwards. But the Government cannot permit such repetition, . . . so it won't.

iv."Threats"

The idea that tax-policy, e.g. placing a prohibitive tariff on imported goods, can be employed as a means of controlling business is hardly a novel idea. Only Big Government can do such things.


Epilogue
Establishment of the Constitution of the United States in 1789 was pr'bly the highpoint in human endeavors to provide a citizenry a legitimate limited Government in which individuals were free to succeed or fail as they might based upon their own decisions.
It's been downhill ever since.

P.S.
The crew on CNBC would cheer Bernie Sanders and/or The Hillary whatever they chose to do. The crew at FoxBusiness would object.
What a waste it is to lose ones mind.
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What a waste it is to lose ones mind.


Maybe bill lost it when he moved from NY

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