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IndyBoilerman
IndyBoilerman
Feb 18, 2017
9:03am
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I'll bet that I've told all LVA fans that Bush spent far too much money. That doesn't change the fact that the only person responsible for 2009 was Obama.


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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman

There is only one man in the World who had the ability to lower that 2009 budget and deficit. Does PJ care to know who this is? I'll give you a hint...................has name rhymes with "Obama".
That's not true. The Federal Government Fiscal Year starts October 1 so there were several months that President Obama wasn't even in office. But even if you give Bush FY2009, President Obama added more to the National Debt than any President before him. And President Bush did the same. 16 Years of Fiscal Irresponsibility is a Bi-Partisan fuck up.


IndyBoilerman
IndyBoilerman
Feb 18, 2017
9:07am
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Billy is once again confused by large numbers. Please read the truth once again.

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Originally posted by: billryan
Milled points out an article claims to show that we spent 1.4 on Obama one year. Funny thing is in 2008, we spent 1.6 billion.
Who was President in 2008?
Figures don't lie. Too bad liars don't figure.


IndyBoilerman
IndyBoilerman
Feb 18, 2017
9:13am
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The Clinton economy was good, the Bush Economy was mediocre to poor. The Obama economy, for the debt racked up,was the worst in US history. Who's going to pay for the $70,000 per taxpayer debt that Obama left us with?

Stay on topic.


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
We had a balanced budget in 2000. And we've had a huge slew of deficit causing policy since. I've already pointed to much of it on this thread. The only real legislation Obama signed that increased the deficit was his stimulus plan...or about 1 trillion. Please correct that statement by noting any other unpaid endeavors he undertook.

most right wingers complain about deficit while cheering the underlying policy that created them.


IndyBoilerman
IndyBoilerman
Feb 18, 2017
9:14am
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How about Obama's signing of the budget. Let's see what PJ's answer is to that.


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman

There is only one man in the World who had the ability to lower that 2009 budget and deficit. Does PJ care to know who this is? I'll give you a hint...................has name rhymes with "Obama".
That's not true. The Federal Government Fiscal Year starts October 1 so there were several months that President Obama wasn't even in office. But even if you give Bush FY2009, President Obama added more to the National Debt than any President before him. And President Bush did the same. 16 Years of Fiscal Irresponsibility is a Bi-Partisan fuck up.


What policy did Obama sign that added more to the debt than any president before him?

If you wAnt to,argue Democrats should have done more to retract deficit causing policy that was already in place then you'll get no argument from me. But it's incorrect to say they added to the deficit. They did the opposite.



billryan
billryan
Feb 18, 2017
9:31am
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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman
Billy is once again confused by large numbers. Please read the truth once again.

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Originally posted by: billryan
Milled points out an article claims to show that we spent 1.4 on Obama one year. Funny thing is in 2008, we spent 1.6 billion.
Who was President in 2008?
Figures don't lie. Too bad liars don't figure.



Boils thinks repeating lie after lie somehow makes it true.
Sad! Pathetic! Fake!
alanleroy
alanleroy
Feb 19, 2017
12:30am
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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman
That doesn't change the fact that the only person responsible for 2009 was Obama.
President Obama took office Jan 20 2009. The 2009 Fiscal Year began October 1 2008. What part of Obama had absolutely no control over Bush's spending between October 1 2008 and January 20 2009 don't you understand? That money was already gone the day he took office.

alanleroy
alanleroy
Feb 19, 2017
12:53am
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman

There is only one man in the World who had the ability to lower that 2009 budget and deficit. Does PJ care to know who this is? I'll give you a hint...................has name rhymes with "Obama".
That's not true. The Federal Government Fiscal Year starts October 1 so there were several months that President Obama wasn't even in office. But even if you give Bush FY2009, President Obama added more to the National Debt than any President before him. And President Bush did the same. 16 Years of Fiscal Irresponsibility is a Bi-Partisan fuck up.


What policy did Obama sign that added more to the debt than any president before him?

If you wAnt to,argue Democrats should have done more to retract deficit causing policy that was already in place then you'll get no argument from me. But it's incorrect to say they added to the deficit. They did the opposite.
I did not say he added to the deficit. I said he added more to the National Debt than any other President...and he did. With help from Democrats and Republicans in Congress. The national debt is what we have to repay....duh.

Candidate Obama said President Bush was 'unpatriotic' for adding 5 Trillion to the National Debt "By his lonesome"....Those were his words. Obama added 8 Trillion. What does that make him? Fiscally irresponsible....obviously. Saying Obama 'cut the deficit' is disingenuous. It's like saying I cut my borrowing in half after I just borrowed more than any other person in the history of the world. Big fucking deal. It's a nice meaningless sound bite.

Once you can admit that we actually borrowed about 35% more under President Obama than under President Bush and President Bush borrowed more than the combined total of all Presidents before him you'll be on the road recovery from your partisan rose colored glasses.

We've had 16 years of fiscally irresponsible leadership....From Presidents of both Parties and the Congress from both parties was complicit.

billryan
billryan
Feb 19, 2017
1:59am
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Seems like Alan has more interest in playing the blame game than solving the problem.
Unfortunate!
pjstroh
pjstroh
Feb 19, 2017
2:03am
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And again you can't name what policy he signed that added to the debt. By virtue of being in office he is responsible for debt creation policy that was already in place before he got there and had no say over? That's beyond ridiculous.

Trump is also inheriting a deficit and will be adding to the debt during his tenure...at least in the short term. Is the current deficit a reflection of his fiscal irresponsibility? Um....no. His legacy will be defined by his ability to increase or decrease the budget deficit.
Terry Locke
Terry Locke
Feb 19, 2017
4:34am
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman
That doesn't change the fact that the only person responsible for 2009 was Obama.
President Obama took office Jan 20 2009. The 2009 Fiscal Year began October 1 2008. What part of Obama had absolutely no control over Bush's spending between October 1 2008 and January 20 2009 don't you understand? That money was already gone the day he took office.


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