Trump proposes Second Amendment solution for Hillary if she wins the election.

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: malibber2
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Can one of our Trump translators tell me the rational interpretation of his comments last night?
"Obama is the founder of ISIS."

I want to make sure I understand what he really meant before I discuss it further. Also, I'll do some fact checking on that statement too. I'm sure the "Liarry" folks will want to be clear on the facts being told by their candidate



I'm pretty sure he's blaming Obama's Iraq and Syria policies for allowing ISIS to grow from crisis and defeat in 2009 to World Wide Terrorist organization with tens of thousands of fighters and control over millions of people in 2016. Saying Obama 'founded ISIS' is a metaphor for ignoring ISIS when they really were the JV team.



But Trump very publicly blamed George Bush for founding ISIS during the Republican primary. Does that mean that George Bush and Obama were working together to bring George Bush Sr.'s promised new world order to fruition?
Right. They were co-founders of ISIS.
DONALD TRUMP (in 2007): Now it's [Iraq] a breeding ground for terrorists. So, look, the war is a total catastrophe.

WOLF BLITZER: Who do you blame?

TRUMP:: And they have a civil war going over there.

BLITZER: Who do you blame?

TRUMP:: Well, there's only one person you can blame, and that's our current president [Bush]. I mean, obviously Rumsfeld was a disaster, and other people that are giving him advice have been a disaster.

Later in that same interview:

BLITZER: Thank you very much. Let's talk politics. All right? A lot of people thinking about politics right now. I'm going to mention some names: give me your thoughts right away. Hillary Clinton.

TRUMP: Very talented, very smart. She's a friend of mine, so I'm a little bit prejudiced. She's a very, very capable person and I think she'll probably be the nominee. We'll see, but I think she'll probably be the nominee.

BLITZER: Is she ready to be commander-in-chief?

TRUMP: I think she is. I think she's a very, very brilliant person, and as a senator in New York, she has done a great job. Everybody loves her. She just won an election with a tremendous majority and she really -- she's become very, very popular in New York. And it wasn't easy.
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: malibber2
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Can one of our Trump translators tell me the rational interpretation of his comments last night?
"Obama is the founder of ISIS."

I want to make sure I understand what he really meant before I discuss it further. Also, I'll do some fact checking on that statement too. I'm sure the "Liarry" folks will want to be clear on the facts being told by their candidate



I'm pretty sure he's blaming Obama's Iraq and Syria policies for allowing ISIS to grow from crisis and defeat in 2009 to World Wide Terrorist organization with tens of thousands of fighters and control over millions of people in 2016. Saying Obama 'founded ISIS' is a metaphor for ignoring ISIS when they really were the JV team.



But Trump very publicly blamed George Bush for founding ISIS during the Republican primary. Does that mean that George Bush and Obama were working together to bring George Bush Sr.'s promised new world order to fruition?
Right. They were co-founders of ISIS.
DONALD TRUMP (in 2007): Now it's [Iraq] a breeding ground for terrorists. So, look, the war is a total catastrophe.

WOLF BLITZER: Who do you blame?

TRUMP:: And they have a civil war going over there.

BLITZER: Who do you blame?

TRUMP:: Well, there's only one person you can blame, and that's our current president [Bush]. I mean, obviously Rumsfeld was a disaster, and other people that are giving him advice have been a disaster.

Later in that same interview:

BLITZER: Thank you very much. Let's talk politics. All right? A lot of people thinking about politics right now. I'm going to mention some names: give me your thoughts right away. Hillary Clinton.

TRUMP: Very talented, very smart. She's a friend of mine, so I'm a little bit prejudiced. She's a very, very capable person and I think she'll probably be the nominee. We'll see, but I think she'll probably be the nominee.

BLITZER: Is she ready to be commander-in-chief?

TRUMP: I think she is. I think she's a very, very brilliant person, and as a senator in New York, she has done a great job. Everybody loves her. She just won an election with a tremendous majority and she really -- she's become very, very popular in New York. And it wasn't easy.


When you're a businessman, you are only beholden to YOU, your family and people you directly do business with and that means you talk nice about powerful people, politicians and whatnut. Trump was 'playing the game' as great businessmen do.

What he's saying in 2016 is probably how he felt all along, but as a businessman, he's going to say everyone's great.

Why is this so hard to believe?
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: malibber2
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Can one of our Trump translators tell me the rational interpretation of his comments last night?
"Obama is the founder of ISIS."

I want to make sure I understand what he really meant before I discuss it further. Also, I'll do some fact checking on that statement too. I'm sure the "Liarry" folks will want to be clear on the facts being told by their candidate



I'm pretty sure he's blaming Obama's Iraq and Syria policies for allowing ISIS to grow from crisis and defeat in 2009 to World Wide Terrorist organization with tens of thousands of fighters and control over millions of people in 2016. Saying Obama 'founded ISIS' is a metaphor for ignoring ISIS when they really were the JV team.



But Trump very publicly blamed George Bush for founding ISIS during the Republican primary. Does that mean that George Bush and Obama were working together to bring George Bush Sr.'s promised new world order to fruition?
Right. They were co-founders of ISIS.
DONALD TRUMP (in 2007): Now it's [Iraq] a breeding ground for terrorists. So, look, the war is a total catastrophe.

WOLF BLITZER: Who do you blame?

TRUMP:: And they have a civil war going over there.

BLITZER: Who do you blame?

TRUMP:: Well, there's only one person you can blame, and that's our current president [Bush]. I mean, obviously Rumsfeld was a disaster, and other people that are giving him advice have been a disaster.

Later in that same interview:

BLITZER: Thank you very much. Let's talk politics. All right? A lot of people thinking about politics right now. I'm going to mention some names: give me your thoughts right away. Hillary Clinton.

TRUMP: Very talented, very smart. She's a friend of mine, so I'm a little bit prejudiced. She's a very, very capable person and I think she'll probably be the nominee. We'll see, but I think she'll probably be the nominee.

BLITZER: Is she ready to be commander-in-chief?

TRUMP: I think she is. I think she's a very, very brilliant person, and as a senator in New York, she has done a great job. Everybody loves her. She just won an election with a tremendous majority and she really -- she's become very, very popular in New York. And it wasn't easy.

...What he's saying in 2016 is probably how he felt all along, but as a businessman, he's going to say everyone's great...
Except that he did NOT say everyone's great. He said just the opposite about Bush, blaming him for the Iraq "catastrophe" and for creating a "breeding ground for terror."

So much for your theory.
Obama now and then

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Originally posted by: CowboyKell
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: CowboyKell
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: CowboyKell
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Originally posted by: forkushV

Dude, I just GUESSED that you were a Trump voter, and you must admit, the resemblance is uncanny. I mean your statements devoid of anything but insults and rage. You complete lack of thoughtfulness and evidence. And your fundamental dishonesty. (Such as your last sentence above.)

If your hair resembles a stuffed hamster, I'd say you got the complete package!


Why? Because I call you on your bullshit? My statements are about YOU, not any particular candidate in any particular political race or position. Modern politics are in the state they are in because of YOU and people like you.
And so you're thin skinned and hold grudges. Dude, if your coif resembles an angry ferret, you could do a tribute act!


Thin skinned?? Grudge?? Where does that come from? Oh yeah, you make shit up as you go along.
"I disagree with all of them. Just because you wrote them." - the very grudgey CowboyKell


Exactly!! It's not a grudge, it's just the nature of the universe. You have never been right, ever...
At the time you wrote you disagreed with me "just because you wrote them," you were claiming the following debunked story was true.

So much for me not being right, huh?


Nope, you were wrong. But you are going to believe what you want. Even though it is wrong.

And talk about sources....



David Mikkelson


founded snopes.com in 1994, and under his guidance the company has pioneered a number of revolutionary technologies, including the iPhone, the light bulb, beer pong, and a vaccine for a disease that has not yet been discovered. He is currently seeking political asylum in the Duchy of Grand Fenwick.

"He is currently seeking political asylum in the Duchy of Grand Fenwick."

Ah yes, where I'm, certain he'll live a good life enjoying the very best of Pinot Grand Fenwick with his lobster, of course unless someone comes up with a cheap imitation.

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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: malibber2
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Can one of our Trump translators tell me the rational interpretation of his comments last night?
"Obama is the founder of ISIS."

I want to make sure I understand what he really meant before I discuss it further. Also, I'll do some fact checking on that statement too. I'm sure the "Liarry" folks will want to be clear on the facts being told by their candidate



I'm pretty sure he's blaming Obama's Iraq and Syria policies for allowing ISIS to grow from crisis and defeat in 2009 to World Wide Terrorist organization with tens of thousands of fighters and control over millions of people in 2016. Saying Obama 'founded ISIS' is a metaphor for ignoring ISIS when they really were the JV team.



But Trump very publicly blamed George Bush for founding ISIS during the Republican primary. Does that mean that George Bush and Obama were working together to bring George Bush Sr.'s promised new world order to fruition?
Right. They were co-founders of ISIS.
DONALD TRUMP (in 2007): Now it's [Iraq] a breeding ground for terrorists. So, look, the war is a total catastrophe.

WOLF BLITZER: Who do you blame?

TRUMP:: And they have a civil war going over there.

BLITZER: Who do you blame?

TRUMP:: Well, there's only one person you can blame, and that's our current president [Bush]. I mean, obviously Rumsfeld was a disaster, and other people that are giving him advice have been a disaster.

Later in that same interview:

BLITZER: Thank you very much. Let's talk politics. All right? A lot of people thinking about politics right now. I'm going to mention some names: give me your thoughts right away. Hillary Clinton.

TRUMP: Very talented, very smart. She's a friend of mine, so I'm a little bit prejudiced. She's a very, very capable person and I think she'll probably be the nominee. We'll see, but I think she'll probably be the nominee.

BLITZER: Is she ready to be commander-in-chief?

TRUMP: I think she is. I think she's a very, very brilliant person, and as a senator in New York, she has done a great job. Everybody loves her. She just won an election with a tremendous majority and she really -- she's become very, very popular in New York. And it wasn't easy.

OMG! Things have changed since 2007. Go figure.

Wow. I just stumbled across a video from June 2008 where Hillary said she was staying in the race because anything could happen and that Bobby Kennedy was killed in June while campaigning.

I never, ever thought I'd say this, but thanks Keith Olberman for the laundry list you go through.

All of you need to see this video.

Hillary's assassination remark and Keith Olberman's Hillary list
Yep. There it is right there. Hillary's dog whistle to get rid of Obama. It's as clear as your presupposition.
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
Yep. There it is right there. Hillary's dog whistle to get rid of Obama. It's as clear as your presupposition.
If it was you would have just quoted her.

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