Trump Says When You Put Men And Women Together The Expected Result Is Rape

Aside from the fact that the vast majority of the complaints were men vs men, your headline is still incorrect. I'd edit it to Trump says.....
As it is, you give him too much credit.
You are right. That is a much better way to phrase it.
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Billy, I would like to see your supporting documentation regarding your claim that most complaints are from men. "Military Times" disagrees strongly with you after polling 170,000 troops. Furthermore, if male on male rapes are up, then Trump would have been more accurate to argue "What did they expect when putting gays, men, and woman together". Liberals just can't stand it when someone tells the truth.

Here's the article refuting Billy's comments.

Military Times on unwanted contact


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Aside from the fact that the vast majority of the complaints were men vs men, your headline is still incorrect. I'd edit it to Trump says.....
As it is, you give him too much credit.



The statistics in the article you linked state just what I said.
Men make up about 85% of the Services.
While the percent of women reporting abuse is higher, the actual number of victims is lower.
By the way, rape is not about sex, its about exerting power over the victim. I'd wager a years income that the overwhelming number of men accused of raping another male in the military are not gay. Do you think the NYPD guys accused of shoving a toilet plunger up the guys rectum were gay?

The article is from GQ. The statistics are from the military.

The moment a man enlists in the United States armed forces, his chances of being sexually assaulted increase by a factor of ten. Women, of course, are much more likely to be victims of military sexual trauma (MST), but far fewer of them enlist. In fact, more military men are assaulted than women—nearly 14,000 in 2012 alone. Prior to the repeal of "Don't ask, don't tell" in 2011, male-on-male-rape victims could actually be discharged for having engaged in homosexual conduct. That's no longer the case—but the numbers show that men are still afraid to report being sexually assaulted.

Military culture is built upon a tenuous balance of aggression and obedience. The potential for sexual violence exists whenever there is too much of either. New recruits, stripped of their free will, cannot question authority. A certain kind of officer demands sex from underlings in the same way he demands they pick up his laundry. A certain kind of recruit rapes his peer in a sick mimicry of the power structure: I own you totally. "One of the myths is that the perpetrators identify as gay, which is by and large not the case," says James Asbrand, a psychologist with the Salt Lake City VA's PTSD clinical team. "It's not about the sex. It's about power and control."
From the very survey dumpster cited.

The Pentagon estimated that 26,000 service members experienced unwanted sexual contact in 2012, up from 19,000 in 2010. Of those cases, the Pentagon says, most involved attacks on men, mostly by other men. Out of 1,197,000 total enlisted men, approximately 1 to 2 percent are said to have experienced a sexual assault.

Recent statistics show that in terms of number of assaults, “the majority of the victims are men.”[19] It also states that although rare, women have previously aided men in sexually assaulting other women.[19] According to statistics released by the Department of Defense, in fiscal 2012, more men were victims of sexual abuse than women.[20] Turchik and Wilson found that “one problem that may be unique for men is confusion concerning sexual identity, masculinity, and sexual orientation after an assault, especially if the perpetrator is a man,” and that “homosexual victims may…feel that the assault was a punishment for being gay, whereas heterosexual victims may feel confused about sexuality and masculinity, especially if their body sexually responded during the assault.”[21]

Studies of male sexual assault victims have shown that they become more prone to emotional, physical, and social difficulties after being assaulted, which is comparable to women.[21] This shows that “[r]egardless of the victim’s gender…the consequences of sexual assault are both far reaching and acute.”[21] However, “U.S. military rape law applies only to female victims and male perpetrators,” which “promote[s] the rape myths that men cannot be raped, [and] that women cannot be perpetrators.”[21]
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