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malibber2
malibber2
Jun 26, 2016
5:04am
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Killery is kicking his ass 51 to 39. George Will left the party, and Mitch MooConnell won’t say if he thinks Donald is qualified to be president. This election could end up being a 20 point blowout. I wonder what the next Republican autopsy is going to say?

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Terry Locke
Terry Locke
Jun 26, 2016
5:17am
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I've said for a long time that Trump is unelectable.

His base consists of White males with high school only education, older White males and people making less than $50,000 salary annually. He is a disaster among young voters, women and minorities. You can't get elected without broader support.

Cues the "yeah but Clinton" responses.
Roulette Man
Roulette Man
Jun 26, 2016
5:28am
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Each will have conventions and have a bounce. Seriously for you Hillary apologists out there, it isn't in the bag at all for her.
Terry Locke
Terry Locke
Jun 26, 2016
6:00am
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
Each will have conventions and have a bounce. Seriously for you Hillary apologists out there, it isn't in the bag at all for her.


I'm not a Hillary supporter. I am capable of a helicopter view.

Roulette Man
Roulette Man
Jun 26, 2016
6:03am
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Originally posted by: friedmush
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
Each will have conventions and have a bounce. Seriously for you Hillary apologists out there, it isn't in the bag at all for her.


I'm not a Hillary supporter. I am capable of a helicopter view.


Nor am I a Trump supporter, although I love how he challenges the status quo and the press.
alanleroyII
alanleroyII
Jun 26, 2016
7:14am
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Polls had BREXIT Stay up by 8 percent....Just one week ago. The bookies made stay a 95% favorite just 5 hours before the vote.... And if the pollsters and bookies got the BREXIT so wrong less than a week before the vote, what makes you think the Clinton/Trump polls are any better 4 months out?

US Presidential Polls in June don't mean a lot....especially national polls.....Remember, we have an electoral college and not a direct democracy. It's all about the swinging/swinger states which are all a lot closer than 12%. We still have a shitload of negative ads to go until November....and so far Hillary has been running almost all of them. I expect that's going to change.
Terry Locke
Terry Locke
Jun 26, 2016
8:10am
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
Polls had BREXIT Stay up by 8 percent....Just one week ago. The bookies made stay a 95% favorite just 5 hours before the vote.... And if the pollsters and bookies got the BREXIT so wrong less than a week before the vote, what makes you think the Clinton/Trump polls are any better 4 months out?

US Presidential Polls in June don't mean a lot....especially national polls.....Remember, we have an electoral college and not a direct democracy. It's all about the swinging/swinger states which are all a lot closer than 12%. We still have a shitload of negative ads to go until November....and so far Hillary has been running almost all of them. I expect that's going to change.


Very true. And national polls are meaningless in November as well with a series of 50 elections to determine president.

A fun place for wonks to peruse is:

WWW.270towin.com

And, of course, Nate Silver always bats 1.000 when predicting electoral college votes from every state.
O2bnVegas
O2bnVegas
Jun 26, 2016
9:17am
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Hillary turns my stomach. But at least she has smarts.

Trump speaks what a lot of people THINK they want in their heart of hearts.
Unfortunately for him, he doesn't speak it very well. He sounds like a moron.

How in hell did he get where he is in the business world?
He must have had some brilliant surrogates working for him.
malibber2
malibber2
Jun 26, 2016
11:05am
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
Polls had BREXIT Stay up by 8 percent....Just one week ago. The bookies made stay a 95% favorite just 5 hours before the vote.... And if the pollsters and bookies got the BREXIT so wrong less than a week before the vote, what makes you think the Clinton/Trump polls are any better 4 months out?

US Presidential Polls in June don't mean a lot....especially national polls.....Remember, we have an electoral college and not a direct democracy. It's all about the swinging/swinger states which are all a lot closer than 12%. We still have a shitload of negative ads to go until November....and so far Hillary has been running almost all of them. I expect that's going to change.


Brexit isn't comparable to an election. If anything, the last Presidential election shows us that Democratic voters are undercounted in the polling. The polls matter this far out because being this far behind makes it difficult for him to raise money to fund his campaign and a lot of Republican officials are feeling the freedom to distance themselves from him now that his poll numbers are starting to drop. Lost fundraising opportunities and getting ganked by elected officials in your own party isn’t something that can be fixed as the election gets closer.
forkushV
forkushV
Jun 26, 2016
11:20am
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Based on his latest fundraising numbers, this election may end up being Donald Trump's fifth bankruptcy.
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