Trump trailing by 12

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Originally posted by: malibber2
Brexit isn't comparable to an election.
Really? Pollsters polled. People voted. Explain how the Pollsters got it so wrong so close to the vote....and how you think US Pollsters are so right so far away from the vote. You know they use the same techniques....right? Heck they haven't even had a debate yet. That could change everything.

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: malibber2
Brexit isn't comparable to an election.
Really? Pollsters polled. People voted. Explain how the Pollsters got it so wrong so close to the vote....and how you think US Pollsters are so right so far away from the vote. You know they use the same techniques....right? Heck they haven't even had a debate yet. That could change everything.
Yeah, I remember how when Trump was leading in the early polls, people claimed that it wouldn't last. They were wrong too.

So far Hillary has invested millions on crucial data mining and microtargeting of demographic groups in swing states. Trump has spent more on baseball caps. Hillary has hundreds of professional boots on the ground. Trump has almost none. To build crowds and harvest volunteers and money in the swing states, Hillary is going to be able to feature rock stars like President Obama, President Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Al Franken, and Joe Biden. Donald Trump will have his wife, Chris Christie and.....Sarah Palin? Hillary will be able to build crowds with the likes of Katy Perry, Beyonce, and Bruce Springsteen. Trump will have Kenny Rogers and Meatloaf. Thousands of California Hillary supporters are going to drive and fly into Nevada to knock on the door of every Democratic voter in the state multiple times. I was one of them in 2008. And the Trump campaign currently has less money in the bank than the defunct Ben Carson campaign.

And the most powerful get-out-the-vote medium in the world, Facebook, has signaled that it is ready to ratfuck the Trump campaign if they think it's necessary (It probably won't be.) Independents are either morons or liars, so TV commercials directed at them are almost worthless.

I've been saying that Donald Trump was going to be the Republican nominee since forever, but Republican primary voters are very different than voters in the general election. I thought Romney had a chance, I thought McCain had a chance (until he chose Palin), but I don't see a way for Trump to win this.
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Originally posted by: forkushV

I've been saying that Donald Trump was going to be the Republican nominee since forever, but Republican primary voters are very different than voters in the general election. I thought Romney had a chance, I thought McCain had a chance (until he chose Palin), but I don't see a way for Trump to win this.
The only path I see for a Trump victory is if Democrats just don't turn out for Hillary on election day. Of course that's got nothing to do with a June poll.

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: forkushV

I've been saying that Donald Trump was going to be the Republican nominee since forever, but Republican primary voters are very different than voters in the general election. I thought Romney had a chance, I thought McCain had a chance (until he chose Palin), but I don't see a way for Trump to win this.
The only path I see for a Trump victory is if Democrats just don't turn out for Hillary on election day...
Well yeah, but turning out voters is what campaigns do, and at this point Donald Trump doesn't have a campaign. He has no adequate fundraising apparatus, he has almost no data analytics to target resources and voters, he has almost no professionals in the swing states to organize and motivate volunteers, and he has few popular surrogates to help him whip up enthusiasm and harvest votes, volunteers, and dollars.

Anyone who thinks he can jumpstart all that stuff in July or later looks like a loser to me.

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Originally posted by: forkushVHillary is going to be able to feature rock stars like President Obama, President Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Al Franken, and Joe Biden.

Democrat rock stars.... Øbama - worst President ever, pathological liar, wannabe dictator, over-reaching narcissist. Slick Willy - impeached former President and serial sex offender. Warren - avowed socialist, lies about her own ancestry for political gain, promotes free college while receiving $400,000/year for teaching one class at Harvard. Bernie Sanders - a Hugo Chavez-style wannabe socialist who thinks money really does grow on trees. Al Franken - wouldn't have been elected to the Senate without voter fraud in Minnesota. Joe Biden - a true dumb ass that is given a pass (or the comments go unreported) by major media outlets. Those are your rock stars!

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: forkushV

I've been saying that Donald Trump was going to be the Republican nominee since forever, but Republican primary voters are very different than voters in the general election. I thought Romney had a chance, I thought McCain had a chance (until he chose Palin), but I don't see a way for Trump to win this.
The only path I see for a Trump victory is if Democrats just don't turn out for Hillary on election day. Of course that's got nothing to do with a June poll.


I have been thinking that for a long time. there will be a lot of dems that just stay home because they can't stand crooked Hillary. they know that she IS a horrible monster. but it probably won't be enough to make here lose the election.
Hillary may be leading Trump in a head to head vote but when you throw in the Libertarian and Green party candidates, her lead drops to ONE point. I'm surprised nobody else has mentioned this and also, it's still June, many moons to go before Nov.
Heres the latest NBC poll.

NBC/WSJ Poll: Clinton Leads Trump By 5 Points

"..When the horserace is expanded to four candidates — including Libertarian Gary Johnson and the Green Party's Jill Stein — Clinton gets support from 39 percent of voters, Trump gets 38 percent, Johnson 10 percent and Stein 6 percent.

The NBC/WSJ poll — conducted June 19-23 — comes after Clinton clinched the number of delegates needed to become the Democratic Party's presumptive nominee; after the tragic June 12 Orlando, Florida, shootings; and after a rough three-week stretch for Trump's campaign.."

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/nbc-wsj-poll-clinton-leads-trump-5-points-n598716
Still waiting for the list of Hillary accomplishments.
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Originally posted by: hoops2
Still waiting for the list of Hillary accomplishments.


She scored a passing grade on a sanity test which sets her apart from the guy Hoops will be voting for in November.

Best of luck!

It's amazing how nobody can answer that question
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