Trump trailing by 12

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: jatki99
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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman
PJ once again is using the Liberal strategy of lying. He calls one of the most successful businessmen in the World crazy. Has anyone noticed that libs call every GOP front runner stupid in every presidential election.

Why must these Liberals lie if they have such a great story to tell?


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: hoops2
Still waiting for the list of Hillary accomplishments.


She scored a passing grade on a sanity test which sets her apart from the guy Hoops will be voting for in November.

Best of luck!





But..but, she attended all those meetings with people from around the world while she was SoS. Um, wait a minute, isn't attending meetings part of the JOB of SoS. So what she had perfect attendence at meetings, Obama should give her a star. The thing is, not a single solitary positive accomplishment came from any of those meetings unless you want to count how the clinton foundation coffers absolutely swelled from all those world leaders.

Name one single good thing that came out of her time as SoS. Remember, meetings aren't accomplishments.


Yes! She did her job for 4 years as Secretary of State traveling the world as the chief ambassador of the United States of Ameirca...building face to face relationships with every industrialized nation on the planet....and being privy to some of the most confidential matters of our government - including the mission to kill Bin Laden. Ya know - no pertinent relevancy to being commander in chief there, right?

Some people might call that valuable experience (including liberals like Marco Rubio, Henry Kissenger, and George Will). but you're free to shrug it off and vote for a man with a far more impressive list of accomplishments - like hosting a cupcake fundraiser with Gary Busey.

Good luck in November!


Holy crap! You voted for a community organizer who didn't even have three years under his belt in the Senate.

AND AGAIN, meeting with people around the world is part of the job, not any type of accomplishment whatsoever (except fattening the clinton calf). I really can't believe you're still harping on that shit. To tell ya the truth, I think I'd still prefer having OBL around and take back all her fuck ups as SoS.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: jatki99
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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman
PJ once again is using the Liberal strategy of lying. He calls one of the most successful businessmen in the World crazy. Has anyone noticed that libs call every GOP front runner stupid in every presidential election.

Why must these Liberals lie if they have such a great story to tell?


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: hoops2
Still waiting for the list of Hillary accomplishments.


She scored a passing grade on a sanity test which sets her apart from the guy Hoops will be voting for in November.

Best of luck!





But..but, she attended all those meetings with people from around the world while she was SoS. Um, wait a minute, isn't attending meetings part of the JOB of SoS. So what she had perfect attendence at meetings, Obama should give her a star. The thing is, not a single solitary positive accomplishment came from any of those meetings unless you want to count how the clinton foundation coffers absolutely swelled from all those world leaders.

Name one single good thing that came out of her time as SoS. Remember, meetings aren't accomplishments.


Yes! She did her job for 4 years as Secretary of State traveling the world as the chief ambassador of the United States of Ameirca...building face to face relationships with every industrialized nation on the planet....and being privy to some of the most confidential matters of our government - including the mission to kill Bin Laden. Ya know - no pertinent relevancy to being commander in chief there, right? keeping all of that confidential information on an unsecured email server that was likely hacked

Some people might call that valuable experience (including liberals like Marco Rubio, Henry Kissenger, and George Will). but you're free to shrug it off and vote for a man with a far more impressive list of accomplishments - like hosting a cupcake fundraiser with Gary Busey. Trump has to follow all those federal laws concerning publically held companies, Hillary only had to account to......herself as NO laws matter to the Hildabeast

Good luck in November!


Earlier this year, Crain’s reported that Donald Trump received a property-tax break for middle-class New Yorkers. That revelation raised questions about just how wealthy the presumptive GOP presidential nominee really is. The Trump campaign insisted the tax break was a mistake, and the city agreed at first but earlier this month walked back from that statement. Last week, Trump asked that he no longer be granted the credit and the city complied.

That raised a question in our minds: How many other New York City billionaires receive the tax credit that Trump got? As best we can tell, the answer is none.

The tax break at issue is called the STAR credit, which stands for the New York State School Tax Relief Program. In order to qualify for STAR, married couples must have income of $500,000 or less. Trump received the credit in each of the past three years, shaving about $300 a year off his $192,000 annual property-tax bill for his Trump Tower penthouse.

In order to determine how many of Trump’s peers are getting the STAR credit, we started by turning to the annual Forbes 400, which lists about 60 billionaire New Yorkers. The list is led by industrialist David Koch and former Mayor Michael Bloomberg, followed by a raft of media moguls, money managers and real estate developers. (Incidentally, there is only one female New Yorker in the Forbes 400: Joan Tisch.) Forbes reckons that Trump’s fortune is $4.5 billion, or less than half the amount the candidate has claimed.

The thing is this credit is not automatic. You have to apply for it each year and file paperwork showing last years income. In either 2013 or perhaps it was in 2014 for tax year 2013, every owner had to fill out a rather detailed form to remain eligible for it. I know quite a few people who didnt file it ,saying it wasn't worth sending that much information to the state. The owner of the property , or someone holding power of attorney must sign the forms.
In completely unrelated news, it's the the Warriors with momentum over the Cavs at half time.

I wonder what genius thought putting Trump in front of wall to wall garbage would make a good backdrop for a speech?
OMG! New Quinnipiac poll shows Trump & Clinton in a dead heat! How in the world did Clinton's 12 point lead evaporate so quickly? If this trend continues, Trump is going to be leading by 1288 points by November....Or maybe these June polls really don't mean so much.

https://www.qu.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2363
Who cares what the national polls predict. The key state polling like Pennsylvania, Virginia and Ohio means much more.
The polls had Michael Dukakis ahead of George Bush by double digits in the June before that election. I have to assume he (Dukakis) won in a landslide with polling numbers like that.
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
The polls had Michael Dukakis ahead of George Bush by double digits in the June before that election. I have to assume he (Dukakis) won in a landslide with polling numbers like that.
Here's the difference. In to a lot of voters in June 1988, Dukakis was the boring but pleasant little man from Massachusetts, and Bush was the nice smiling man standing behind Reagan. And back then independent voters actually existed.

in June 2016, the massive negatives and positives for both Hillary and Donald are well know and baked in. Like concrete. And while some Democratic and Republican voters like to call themselves independents, don't believe them. They vote for the same parties election after election, and pretending they are persuadable swing voters is stupid. Under the circumstances, Hillary's lead - probably about 7% - is pretty strong.
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
OMG! New Quinnipiac poll shows Trump & Clinton in a dead heat! How in the world did Clinton's 12 point lead evaporate so quickly?...
Oh that's easy! Both the poll showing the 12% lead and the one showing a 2% lead were outlier polls. The composite of the national pollsters shows a Hillary lead of about 7%, and over the last couple presidential elections, the composites have proven to be accurate.

Now go look up the word "outlier" so next time you aren't so confused.
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