Twelve More Women Come Forward And Claim Trump Assaulted Them

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Because it is fun. If you guys want to vote for someone that admits to sexually assaulting women and has a string of victims that maybe even exceeds Cosby, I think you ought to own that.

Great minds:

I'm waiting for allegations about him abusing members of his family!

Forkie, nothing has changed! And nothing will change! That is what I was saying....no one here is going to change their minds based on posts here. All the back and forth won't solve a thing here. But like others, I do find it to be quite amusing. Particularly how a certain poster here can twist like a f$#@%^g pretzel to make views add up. Very amusing really.

I haven't taken political threads on this board seriously in years. There used to be conservatives on this board that actually believed in conservative values:
AND...
- they didn't contradict their own positions on issues whenever it became convenient based upon the news cycle
- they didn't make their case based upon rumors spawned from right-wing propaganda websites
- they didn't reinvent history and deny previous historical facts
- they didn't renounce every piece of fact checking from Pulitizer Prize winnings sources as "liberal media spin"

Alas - those people have all left. I generally spend my time here pointing out hypocrisy to people who don't believe their own bullshit as proven by their frequent contradictory posts (they get really upset when you bring their previous posts to their attention). That - and fact checking their newest conspiracy of the week they dug up from Breitbart.com or Drudge.

Like Forkush - I generally refrain from starting political threads here because I don't expect to have much intelligent discussion from people who post things like "Obama is initiating a military takeover of Texas"....or "Obama fudged the unemployment numbers"....or "Obama has hidden death panels in the ACA". But how can you not post about Trump? He's a walking Jerry Springer show....and lets be honest - that's largely why the trailer park wing of the GOP nominated him

So PJ, you are so 'learned' about all things conservative, give us your take on Liarry.

Because when I used the yardstick you just laid out, it seems pretty much like you fit the exact position you laugh at.

Explain.....Liarry and NOT contradicting her own positions whenever convenient.
Explain.....Liarry and the vast right wing conspiracy.
Explain.....Liarry and not rewriting history.
Explain.....Liarry and her defying fact checking....think FBI here.

Your so full of crap and full of yourself I wonder if you even read the tripe you post.

If you really examine your presidential candidate, you'll find that on many important issues she does not actually believe in your own 'Liberal Values' (if there are such things).

1. She supported the Iraq War and all kinds of military intervention in the Middle East. Most 'Liberals' used to think that we shouldn't spend American Lives and Treasure by making War against countries that did not attack us. The Iraq war and the financial Crisis were the two key reasons Democrats took control of Congress and the White House in 2008.

2. Speaking of the Financial Crisis, Bill Clinton signed the repeal of Glass Steagall...a 1930's act of Congress that kept Banks out of Non-Bank markets. Many thought that was one of the causes of the Banking Crisis of 2008. Real 'Liberals' were appalled by the repeal of FDR inspired banking regulations that had served us well for so long.

3. Additionally, it's no coincidence that some of Hillary's greatest financial support comes from Wall Street Banks. That financial support includes being her top business source of campaign donations and millions of dollars in personal paid speaking fees. Now it seems those speeches included making distinctions between her private (when talking to bankers) positions and public positions. Have real 'Liberals' ever been known to be champions of Bank Deregulation? Has any 'Liberal' Candidate ever been so cozy with Wall Street Bankers?

4. Many Liberals traditionally decry Free Trade agreements as against the interests of American Workers. Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law. Hillary called the TPP the 'Gold Standard' of trade agreements. There is much disagreement in Economic circles as to the true impact of these agreements. President Obama actually seems to be a Free Trader and with Republican help has tried to push through TPP. Bernie Sanders, Most Liberals (and Trump) believe it's bad for America. I personally think 800 Billion Dollar annual Trade deficits are a direct assault on our GNP and are not sustainable. Your personal mileage may vary....but Pro Free Trade is a Republican position.

5. Bill Clinton signed into law and continues to defend the 1995 Crime Bill. Another Republican Position. Most liberals I know feel that fueled the rise of racist mass incarceration.

Anyway...My point is...that if you can happily support Hillary Clinton's 'Liberal' values while attacking some people here that 'contradict their own positions on issues, maybe you should take a look in the mirror. That is unless you actually supported Hillary's positions on these key issues...in which case you may actually be a Republican.

WHo is talking about the candidates? I'm talking about people on this board.

No doubt there is plenty of hypocrisy from the politicians - and when my side engages in it I call them out on it. Case in point: I blasted the Bush administration (and later the Obama administration) over the Patriot Act. Our right wing crowd ridiculed me during the Bush years only to regularly cry about Obama's KGB-like spy tactics coming from that same law. (And that's almost every right winger on this board)

And what do you say to people on this board who spent 6 years waving their pom-poms for the Iraq intervention only to become pacifist, non-interventionists in Libya? My position on Middle East meddling has been consistent....because I don't allow cable news pundits to tell me how to think.

And what do you say to people who post unsubstantiated rumors from Breitbart.com only to call your Politifact check on it to be "liberal spin". Please...please....do me HUGE favor. If I ever try to state something as fact based upon something I read from Daily Kos - please call me out on it. I would really hate to kill my integrity like that.

They aren't hypocrites, their positions are....."evolving"