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Originally posted by: pjstroh
WHo is talking about the candidates? I'm talking about people on this board.

No doubt there is plenty of hypocrisy from the politicians - and when my side engages in it I call them out on it. Case in point: I blasted the Bush administration (and later the Obama administration) over the Patriot Act. Our right wing crowd ridiculed me during the Bush years only to regularly cry about Obama's KGB-like spy tactics coming from that same law. (And that's almost every right winger on this board)

And what do you say to people on this board who spent 6 years waving their pom-poms for the Iraq intervention only to become pacifist, non-interventionists in Libya? My position on Middle East meddling has been consistent....because I don't allow cable news pundits to tell me how to think.

And what do you say to people who post unsubstantiated rumors from Breitbart.com only to call your Politifact check on it to be "liberal spin". Please...please....do me HUGE favor. If I ever try to state something as fact based upon something I read from Daily Kos - please call me out on it. I would really hate to kill my integrity like that.
Oh. Pardon me. I thought we could talk about the real world....Where your candidate was both a pom-pom waver for the Iraq war and was largely behind the military intervention in Libya. Or how your ilk can attack the Wall Street Bankers for years, but turn a blind eye toward your candidate's 'relationship' with them. Sure reeks of hypocrisy...but hey if this is just limited to specific people you've got an issue with and you're longing for the day's of yore when the Free For All was populated with Intelligent Consistent Conservatives with values, then by all means carry on with your rant. Who were those people anyway. I must have missed them. Mindbender?

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
WHo is talking about the candidates? I'm talking about people on this board.

No doubt there is plenty of hypocrisy from the politicians - and when my side engages in it I call them out on it. Case in point: I blasted the Bush administration (and later the Obama administration) over the Patriot Act. Our right wing crowd ridiculed me during the Bush years only to regularly cry about Obama's KGB-like spy tactics coming from that same law. (And that's almost every right winger on this board)

And what do you say to people on this board who spent 6 years waving their pom-poms for the Iraq intervention only to become pacifist, non-interventionists in Libya? My position on Middle East meddling has been consistent....because I don't allow cable news pundits to tell me how to think.

And what do you say to people who post unsubstantiated rumors from Breitbart.com only to call your Politifact check on it to be "liberal spin". Please...please....do me HUGE favor. If I ever try to state something as fact based upon something I read from Daily Kos - please call me out on it. I would really hate to kill my integrity like that.
Oh. Pardon me. I thought we could talk about the real world....Where your candidate was both a pom-pom waver for the Iraq war and was largely behind the military intervention in Libya. Or how your ilk can attack the Wall Street Bankers for years, but turn a blind eye toward your candidate's 'relationship' with them. Sure reeks of hypocrisy...but hey if this is just limited to specific people you've got an issue with and you're longing for the day's of yore when the Free For All was populated with Intelligent Consistent Conservatives with values, then by all means carry on with your rant. Who were those people anyway. I must have missed them. Mindbender?


Whats the matter, Alan, you cant find anything wrong with my point so you changed it to something else?
You cant defend right winger's integrity on this board so you judge mine by positions from other people?
We can add your false equivalencies, backpeddling, and topic shifting to the list of reasons why there is no intelligent discussion left here.


And, sorry, I've been critical on Hillary over the Iraq War from day 1 and you can find plenty of my posts on this board to back that up.... and you wont find a bigger critic of special interest money that corrupts politicans like Hillary CLinton than me - and I've been vocal about it for as long as I've been posting here. The fact that I'm voting for Hillary over Donald Trump (who is equally or far worse on those topics) is not an endorsement of all her positons as you so desperately try to conclude.. I cant be responsible for what other people say - I can only take responsibility for my own integrity. And I do. And that's why I don't change my position on issues....or cite tabloids....or make false equivalencies.
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
WHo is talking about the candidates? I'm talking about people on this board.

No doubt there is plenty of hypocrisy from the politicians - and when my side engages in it I call them out on it. Case in point: I blasted the Bush administration (and later the Obama administration) over the Patriot Act. Our right wing crowd ridiculed me during the Bush years only to regularly cry about Obama's KGB-like spy tactics coming from that same law. (And that's almost every right winger on this board)

And what do you say to people on this board who spent 6 years waving their pom-poms for the Iraq intervention only to become pacifist, non-interventionists in Libya? My position on Middle East meddling has been consistent....because I don't allow cable news pundits to tell me how to think.

And what do you say to people who post unsubstantiated rumors from Breitbart.com only to call your Politifact check on it to be "liberal spin". Please...please....do me HUGE favor. If I ever try to state something as fact based upon something I read from Daily Kos - please call me out on it. I would really hate to kill my integrity like that.
Oh. Pardon me. I thought we could talk about the real world....Where your candidate was both a pom-pom waver for the Iraq war and was largely behind the military intervention in Libya. Or how your ilk can attack the Wall Street Bankers for years, but turn a blind eye toward your candidate's 'relationship' with them. Sure reeks of hypocrisy...but hey if this is just limited to specific people you've got an issue with and you're longing for the day's of yore when the Free For All was populated with Intelligent Consistent Conservatives with values, then by all means carry on with your rant. Who were those people anyway. I must have missed them. Mindbender?


Whats the matter, Alan, you cant find anything wrong with my point so you changed it to something else?
You cant defend right winger's integrity on this board so you judge mine by positions from other people?
We can add your false equivalencies, backpeddling, and topic shifting to the list of reasons why there is no intelligent discussion left here.


And, sorry, I've been critical on Hillary over the Iraq War from day 1 and you can find plenty of my posts on this board to back that up.... and you wont find a bigger critic of special interest money that corrupts politicans like Hillary CLinton than me - and I've been vocal about it for as long as I've been posting here. The fact that I'm voting for Hillary over Donald Trump (who is equally or far worse on those topics) is not an endorsement of all her positons as you so desperately try to conclude.. I cant be responsible for what other people say - I can only take responsibility for my own integrity. And I do. And that's why I don't change my position on issues....or cite tabloids....or make false equivalencies.
The 'point' you were making was just another one of your many attacks on posters here calling them hypocrites...You just admitted that's all you do now. Bully for you. literally.

But whether or not you want to admit it you're supporting a candidate who goes against the liberal ideals democrats used to support. Yeah. I'm judging you based on the ideas you claim to support vs. the corrupt candidate you continue to defend. Maybe you ought to start calling yourself a Democrat Crony Capitalist instead of a Liberal....Then you'd be less of a hypocrite. If the topic was hypocrisy around here, that's not shifting it at all. It's proving it. Now, If you want to claim I'm a hypocrite for whatever the hell you want to make up about me next...Like many Americans, I don't have a Candidate for President.

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
The 'point' you were making was just another one of your many attacks on posters here calling them hypocrites...You just admitted that's all you do now. Bully for you. literally.

But whether or not you want to admit it you're supporting a candidate who goes against the liberal ideals democrats used to support. Yeah. I'm judging you based on the ideas you claim to support vs. the corrupt candidate you continue to defend. If the topic was hypocrisy around here, that's not shifting it at all. It's proving it. Now, If you want to claim I'm a hypocrite for whatever the hell you want to make up about me next...Like many Americans, I don't have a Candidate for President.


Damn straight! Hillary has historically and currently taken positions on several issues I don't agree with....and I call her out on them when she does. I would challenge ALanLeroy to provide an example where I changed my position on any issue based on the party engaged in it. Just ...one...example. Good luck.

But Now AlanLeroy has tee'd himself up to engage in a classic exercise of his own hypocrisy. Since he's too cowardly to confess who he will be voting for in the current election lets look at the past:

Alan, what historical candidate for president have you voted for that never lied, engaged in hypocrisy, or held a position on an issue you did not agree with? And after you concede that point - explain why that doesn't make you guilty on the same bullshit metrics you just laid down on me. Alanleroy will now either (a)disappear, (b)change the topic, or (c) explain why his rules pertain to me but not him





Oh - and new English lesson from centrist, non-partisan AlanLeroy.
Bullying = confronting posters with their own posts .....and fact checking tabloids with legitimate news sources.

another reason not to take political discussions here seriously anymore - AlanLeroy's feckless portrayal as a non-partisan commentator
I like Alan. I really do, so I mean this as a sincere compliment. I have never met anyone better at using false equivalency in discussion or debate.
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
Now, If you want to claim I'm a hypocrite for whatever the hell you want to make up about me next....

But Now AlanLeroy has tee'd himself up to engage in a classic exercise of his own hypocrisy.
Man, am I good or what? PJ. So predictable.

I have never voted for a candidate who was against Major things I believe it. Didn't vote for George Bush Once. Have often voted libertarian. Have often not voted for President.

I guess things like Neocon Wars, Wall Street Influence Pedaling , Mass Incarceration of Minorities and massive Trade Deficits are all minor things PJ can easily overlook. Not me..

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Originally posted by: malibber2
I like Alan. I really do, so I mean this as a sincere complement. I have never met anyone better at using false equalivancy in a debate.
Is it really false equivalency or just holding voters to their alleged principles. I don't know how you of all people can vote for Hillary either. I know. It's because you hate Trump. As long as we keep selling out to these Crony Capitalist Globalists, there's never going to be a real choice.

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Originally posted by: malibber2
I like Alan. I really do, so I mean this as a sincere complement. I have never met anyone better at using false equalivancy in discussion or debate.


I think you mean compliment.

I think you mean equivalency.

You can use spell check or a dictionary on the big words.
AlanLeroy went with (c)....he's just too cowardly to provide the name of anyone he's ever voted for
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