Twelve More Women Come Forward And Claim Trump Assaulted Them

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Originally posted by: Liondownnow
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Originally posted by: malibber2
I like Alan. I really do, so I mean this as a sincere compliment. I have never met anyone better at using false equivalency in discussion or debate.


I think you mean compliment.

I think you mean equivalency.

You can use spell check or a dictionary on the big words.



Unfortunately, I find when I type on the phone the auto-complete in the text window chooses the wrong words. I am on my laptop now, so it should be less of a problem.
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
AlanLeroy went with (c)....he's just too cowardly to provide the name of anyone he's ever voted for
Hypocrites for Hillary. You should get a bumper sticker.

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Originally posted by: malibber2
I like Alan. I really do, so I mean this as a sincere compliment. I have never met anyone better at using false equivalency in a debate.
Is it really false equivalency or just holding voters to their alleged principles. I don't know how you of all people can vote for Hillary either. I know. It's because you hate Trump. As long as we keep selling out to these Crony Capitalist Globalists, there's never going to be a real choice.


False equivalency is a rhetorical device that can be used to try a pin an opponent to their principals. Like I said, it is a compliment. What makes your use of it so good, is your ability to use subtlety to make your point. Frankly, being subtle is something I am not very good at it.

To your point as to how I can vote for Hillary, it looked like it was going to be hard at the beginning of the election season. I don't think she is a crook or a serial liar as the right-wingers have painted her, but I have always seen her as sort of a Democratic version of Mitt Romney. That is someone that is so far removed from the average everyday American experience that they can't comprehend it.

What turned me into an enthusiastic Hillary supporter? Donald Trump. In my mind, there has never been a major party candidate less suited to hold the office of President. He often says racist and misogynistic things, and you know that they aren't one time gaffs or that he is simply someone that is old school. He repeats these types of things over and over again and says them with conviction.

Then there is the gleeful admission that he likes to grab any woman he finds attractive by her pussy. That he liked to walk in on pageant contestants while they were naked. Now women have come forward and said Donald did indeed kiss them without their consent or grab them by their pussies. Women (some as young as 15 at the time ) that were in his pageants said he walked in on them while they were dressing.

His response has been bizarre. He claims the women are too ugly for him to have groped, and it is all a giant conspiracy by international bankers (alt-right code for Jews), Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim, Hillary and Paul Ryan.

Honestly, I can't see how anybody that professes to care about this country could not vote for Hillary this election regardless if they like her or not. The alternative is literally putting a madman in charge of the country.
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Originally posted by: malibber2


False equivalency is a rhetorical device that can be used to try a pin an opponent to their principals. Like I said, it is a compliment. .



That's incredibly generous. False equivalencies are used by people who cant defend an argument - so they equate the argument to something it is not equivalent to.

For example: People on this board cry about Obama's vacation time. They are then fact-checked to show his vacation time is 1/3 that of his predecessor. And then a non-partisan poster chimes in to say both presidents were equally bad at abusing vacation time in office. 3x = x. My principals never felt pinned after that argument. I just felt like I was arguing with a door knob.

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It was a story Heller had told many friends and family members over the years, but is only now telling in public. Some 20 years ago, she claims, when she met Donald Trump for the first and only time, he grabbed her, went for a kiss, and grew angry with her as she twisted away. “Oh, come on,” she alleges that he barked, before holding her firmly in place and planting his lips on hers.


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Originally posted by: malibber2


False equivalency is a rhetorical device that can be used to try a pin an opponent to their principals. Like I said, it is a compliment. .



That's incredibly generous. False equivalencies are used by people who cant defend an argument - so they equate the argument to something it is not equivalent to.

For example: People on this board cry about Obama's vacation time. They are then fact-checked to show his vacation time is 1/3 that of his predecessor. And then a non-partisan poster chimes in to say both presidents were equally bad at abusing vacation time in office. 3x = x. My principals never felt pinned after that argument. I just felt like I was arguing with a door knob.


I agree it is a tactic to redirect the conversation, but it is one I think we have to expect. The whole Trump campaign's theme at this point could be summed up as it is ok to vote for Trump because Hillary is just as bad. Of course the only people that really believe that, are the ones that want to believe it.

2005 Trump makes lewd, crude, and socially unacceptable comments about a woman.

Less than a week before the second debate, this tape suddenly surfaces.

8 women suddenly come forward with allegations of sexual assult which happened anywhere from 30 to 10 years ago.

A few questions:

How does a man get in the womens dressing area of a beauty pagent?
How can a man have his hands all over a women that was just given a seat in First Class, with out anyone noticing and not doing anything to stop it?
Has anyone ever heard male military members talk about women using foul language?
Has anyone noticed that so far the women are Clinton supporters and some have/are working for them?
Has anyone noticed the lack of Hilliary signs?
Has anyone noticed that Bernie supporters are being taken for granted just like the black voters?



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How does a man get in the womens dressing area of a beauty pagent?

Trump said on Howard stern something to the effect because he owned them, and he has a right to inspect the merchandise.
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How can a man have his hands all over a women that was just given a seat in First Class, with out anyone noticing and not doing anything to stop it?

Most people try and mind their own business. Especially so back in the early 1970s. Even today if you were bumped up to first class and after being seated and you saw a famous litigious wealthy business man getting handsy with a female you did not know would you jump out of your seat and put a stop to it?
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Has anyone noticed that so far the women are Clinton supporters and some have/are working for them?

That is not true at all I saw Temple Taggart on CNN today she is a Republican. The Former Ms. Arizona that was one of the first pageant women to be interviewed said she was a conservative. None of the women work for the Clinton Campaign. Some of the said they would vote for Clinton, but there is a good mix of Republican and non-political folks making the claims.
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Has anyone noticed the lack of Clinton signs?

No, but I live in a Republican area. I have noticed many of the Trump signs have disappeared from people’s yards since the tape came out.

No, I haven’t noticed Sanders voters and Black voters being taken for granted. I will pass your concern along to them though.

Oh, and several women did come forward before the debate. I have not included them in my total. For example Temple Taggart came forward back in may.
I rented my club out to several smaller beauty pageants and there were a number of men backstage. Many coaches were male, as were the make up artists. I imagine the organizers had Carte Blanche. As these were mostly held on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon, I rarely was present. We actually worked with a couple that sub-leased from us and worked with the pageants. More times than not, I'd only have one manager on site.
LOCK HIM UP!!!!!
I'm sure they can make an orange jumpsuit that even Trump can fit into.
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