Uh-Oh! Another Electric Auto Company . . .

The creation of both DARPA and GPS were for military use and originally had no intention of being used commercially; which is a big difference from spending billions of dollars investing in companies with dubious technolgy, particularly when the govt has deficits of over $1,000 billion dollars and had it's credit rating reduced.
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The creation of both DARPA and GPS were for military use and originally had no intention of being used commercially...
True, but minus the military need, it still would have been a GREAT investment for the US to make. Don't you agree?

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Originally posted by: arshaleign
I don't own a Volt because I consider the purchase of expensive cars, whatever their energy mode, to be a needless expense. But that's for me; I wouldn't be so sanctimonious to criticize the choices others make.

Almost thirty-five years ago, I made a needless, expensive purchase, and spent $1,295 on a "microcomputer." My original Apple II came with 16k of ram, no monitor, and no floppy or hard drive. I'm glad that I, and people like me, financially supported that technology in its infancy, and helped make it what it is today.

Of course Apple wouldn't be anywhere near what they are today, without the substantial US government investment in DARPA, which resulted in the Internet. Not to mention government development of GPS, which is a key selling point of iPhones. So to recap, it took early adopters paying seemingly outrageous prices, plus substantial government investment, to get us where we are now.

The same will be true for alternative energy vehicles.

Note: I do hope that snidely considers this as "something intelligent." I don't want to disappoint.


I'm still disappointed.

Did the government give you incentive to buy that Apple II? Do you think that Apple would be a better company today than they are currently if the government did provide incentives to you for your purchase of the Apple II?


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Originally posted by: arshaleign
I don't own a Volt because I consider the purchase of expensive cars, whatever their energy mode, to be a needless expense. But that's for me; I wouldn't be so sanctimonious to criticize the choices others make.

Almost thirty-five years ago, I made a needless, expensive purchase, and spent $1,295 on a "microcomputer." My original Apple II came with 16k of ram, no monitor, and no floppy or hard drive. I'm glad that I, and people like me, financially supported that technology in its infancy, and helped make it what it is today.

Of course Apple wouldn't be anywhere near what they are today, without the substantial US government investment in DARPA, which resulted in the Internet. Not to mention government development of GPS, which is a key selling point of iPhones. So to recap, it took early adopters paying seemingly outrageous prices, plus substantial government investment, to get us where we are now.

The same will be true for alternative energy vehicles.

Note: I do hope that snidely considers this as "something intelligent." I don't want to disappoint.


I'm still disappointed.

Did the government give you incentive to buy that Apple II? Do you think that Apple would be a better company today than they are currently if the government did provide incentives to you for your purchase of the Apple II?
The government incentivizes lots of things. The mortgage interest deduction incenvtivizes home ownership. Lower taxes on capital gains incentivizes investment. The millions of government owned acres that make up our roads and our parking spaces incentivize car ownership AND the expansion to suburbs and exurbs.. Without those government investments, we'd have a hell of a lot less homeowners, investors, and automobiles, right?

So whether we're talking about electric vehicles, LED lights, or mortgage tax breaks, the real question is: which of those incentives are really good for our country and which ones aren't. And I'm sure you'll find honorable people on both sides of each of those issues.

But the people who say that the government should never incentivize anything - but then don't oppose all of the incentives like those listed above. I'd say not so honorable.

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Originally posted by: snidely333
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Originally posted by: arshaleign
I don't own a Volt because I consider the purchase of expensive cars, whatever their energy mode, to be a needless expense. But that's for me; I wouldn't be so sanctimonious to criticize the choices others make.

Almost thirty-five years ago, I made a needless, expensive purchase, and spent $1,295 on a "microcomputer." My original Apple II came with 16k of ram, no monitor, and no floppy or hard drive. I'm glad that I, and people like me, financially supported that technology in its infancy, and helped make it what it is today.

Of course Apple wouldn't be anywhere near what they are today, without the substantial US government investment in DARPA, which resulted in the Internet. Not to mention government development of GPS, which is a key selling point of iPhones. So to recap, it took early adopters paying seemingly outrageous prices, plus substantial government investment, to get us where we are now.

The same will be true for alternative energy vehicles.

Note: I do hope that snidely considers this as "something intelligent." I don't want to disappoint.


I'm still disappointed.

Did the government give you incentive to buy that Apple II? Do you think that Apple would be a better company today than they are currently if the government did provide incentives to you for your purchase of the Apple II?
The government incentivizes lots of things. The mortgage interest deduction incenvtivizes home ownership. Lower taxes on capital gains incentivizes investment. The millions of government owned acres that make up our roads and our parking spaces incentivize car ownership AND the expansion to suburbs and exurbs.. Without those government investments, we'd have a hell of a lot less homeowners, investors, and automobiles, right?

So whether we're talking about electric vehicles, LED lights, or mortgage tax breaks, the real question is: which of those incentives are really good for our country and which ones aren't. And I'm sure you'll find honorable people on both sides of each of those issues.

But the people who say that the government should never incentivize anything - but then don't oppose all of the incentives like those listed above. I'd say not so honorable.


You didn't answer the question.
The government currently subsidizes many aspects of our energy sector. Some parts of that sector are still in research and development....other parts are massively profitable on their own feet. The government subsidizes both.

So the question becomes one of how you prefer your tax dollars be spent in the energy sector: researching new technology for the future or padding the dividend checks of some of the most profitbale companies on the planet.
"So the question becomes one of how you prefer your tax dollars be spent in the energy sector: researching new technology for the future" or providing funding for tenuous companies whose ownership donated to the owebama campaign
Europe's discovery of the Americas was supported by government funding when private backing proved insufficient. Seems to have worked out pretty well overall, I know I'm generally pleased with the results.
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"So the question becomes one of how you prefer your tax dollars be spent in the energy sector: researching new technology for the future" or providing funding for tenuous companies whose ownership donated to the owebama campaign


Since hoops made this political.........and BIG OIL didn't donate to #43 and his henchmen ?
All I can say is when is gas prices coming down to less than $2.00 a gallon? Barry was a bitchng about the price of gas back in 2008 and what has happened?

I'm thinking we will see $5.00 a gallon and Barry out of office come November.


Alternative energy was so 1970's.......
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