Using a Video Poker Strategy Card

I've never heard of anyone getting tossed out because of a strategy card. And if casinos are trying to crack down on advantage players they will probably bypass anyone who requires a cheat sheet to play.

Huh? Is there any other city on this planet where the drinks are free?

Re. gambling, yes, you do gamble when you get out of bed, and so do casino executives. But to really understand it, you need to understand that making a million small bets, each with low variance, isn't really gambling. You may be losing but you aren't really gambling. For example, smoking is not gambling; you're certainly killing yourself.

Gambling involves high stakes (driving a formula 1 race car, not driving to work) or high variance (betting on parlays at the sports books). It's interesting that the race car driver is seen as a role model, but the sports bettor is looked down upon.

It's also interesting that the really big gambles that occur in Las Vegas, such as the Cosmopolitan, aren't seen as gambles. But the lines taken on Pacquiao v. Mosley, for example, ARE.

There is the potential for occasional free drinks at any bar in any city. I have gotten free drinks all over the country, but most often at places where I'm the regular and the bar staff knows me as a good tipper, especially if I'm hanging out with an owner or brewer.

And I agree with you about gambling; true gambling involves high stakes or high variance, everything else is just variable priced entertainment.

I haven't either....

But I have heard of people getting tossed for playing 100%+ games, for only playing on multi-point days and for winning too much. All make much less sesne than playing with a strategy card but it happens.

My only point is why brandish a card when discretion takes only nominally more effort?

I know people have gotten tossed at Rampart, South Point, Suncoast and Ellis Island....not for cheating or stealing but for playing within the rules that the respective casino's offered.

Strategy card user beware!

Dan

why the strategy card publisher tells you to be "discrete" ---

it's a marketing ploy. by telling you to be "discrete" it makes you think that you are using something "special" and "above the law."

as others have pointed out it's legal to use. a strategy card does not effect how the RNG works therefore you are not tampering with the game.

you could also use a strategy card at a blackjack game... for about thirty seconds.

the difference between VP and blackjack is that the casinos have a policy about blackjack... no strategy cards or devices that might hold strategy cards such as playing with cell phones, computers, iphones, etc.

one day there might be a casino with a policy about strategy cards at VP. Ive never heard of one. anybody??

The difference with blackjack is that constantly referring to a strategy card will slow down the game and cut into the table profit per hour. It may also slow you down at VP, but that's a game where you control your own speed anyway. I also keep my Pai Gow strategy card discretely on the table where I can refer to it as needed, but that's such a slow game that I can glance at the card without affecting the speed of the game. I have had dealers and pit personnel ask about the card, but more out of the novelty of having never seen one before and not to ever say anything against using it.

NEVER IN MY LONG LIFE have I ever seen, or heard of a player being told they could not use a basic BJ strategy card, usually about the size of a credit card and color coded. Of course, I've only visited about 200 different casino's, so there may be some I'm not familiar with.

Often they are sold in the casino gift shop. And there are different cards, depending on the game rules and number of decks, because, naturally there are subtle variables between the games.

It is possible, though not likely that my information is somewhat "stale", since I have not been to Vegas in 1 1/2 years. I keep a couple of them in my "casino kit" for the occasions where I do have a coupon and/or may want to play a short while to be sociable. And I keep it on the table. As recently as last week at two casino's here in south Florida.

I always keep it on the table whenever I play BJ, even though I know basic strategy. I have used literally hundreds of match play coupons, in many different casinos, and I will say I the strategy cards had plenty of exposure, and I was never directed to put it away. Never.

On numerous occasions I have witnessed players being told to remove electronic devices from the table, and that they could not reference them during the play of a hand.

But, let me reiterate, I HAVE NEVER BEEN TOLD I COULD NOT HAVE, OR USE A BJ STRATEGY CARD, OR KEEP IT ON THE TABLE, and have not seen others told they could not use a card, although they could not use one they had on the phone.

But, I may be incorrect, so I would like Money LA to tell me the name of three casino's that will not currently allow a BJ player to sit and play BJ with a strategy card on the table or in their hand and referenced during the play of their hands.

Just name 3 casino's. Or perhaps admit to providing incorrect information. Your choice. Perhaps you misspoke or chose poor semantics, referring to electronic devices, and not the credit card size hardcopy strategy cards.

Now, if your use of that card is slowing down the game, I could "understand" their asking you to discontinue it's use or leave. But unless the player is an idiot, the use of the card should not slow down a game.

I saw a woman wearing and using this shirt at the Taj in AC.

Too cool!!! Just lift up and follow what it says. Brilliant!!

I stand corrected. Casinos will let you use a blackjack strategy card.

But I thought that changed about a year ago when casinos barred players from using their cell phones at blackjack games because of the strategy cards and strategy plays available on the phones. The info I was given was that all BJ strategy cards and devices were now banned to be fair to all players (and mostly to the house). I guess the info was wrong.