Venetian/Palazzo RESCINDING offers that have already been booked!!!

Diamond tiers make a lot of sense. I will go twice a year and get atier score of say 30,000 in 7 - 8 nights of play and stay and other diamonds may get to that tier score in 70 nights of play. I have been told my on property hosts as well as a geographicaly locally assigned host that that will have an affect on what can be offerred which makes s ense to me, not just because i do it in 2 trips as opposed to 12 trips but becuase it makes good business sense. They are in business to mae money after all.




Quote

Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Hi Garth. Harrah's is famous for handing out the free rooms. The cut backs I am referring to include free play, shopping sprees and gift promotions. What used to be standard $2500 promos for 7 Stars players have been scaled back to $1250 or even $750. At the same time, the list of stores cooperating with Harrahs for their shopping sprees has also been cut back, indicating that Harrahs was unable to "buy down" the stores to cooperate. The various properties this year also started something new: you could take "free play" instead of the gifts and the strategy with that is that the "free play" probably would cost the casino less than the value of the gift (video poker excluded for this swap, slot machines only though they have allowed some table vouchers). Free rooms will never go away for Harrahs (now Caesars)... unless they take a cue from LVS. Free rooms is the "loss leader" of the Loveman strategy figuring once you are on the property you will gamble, you will see a show, you will use the restaurants, you will use the gift shops more than the cost of the room.

edited to add:

The company recently started something new: they are breaking up "Diamond" into various tiers. This opens the door to scaling back the "lower diamond offers" from the "higher diamond players."

A similar thing was done for 7 Stars in early 2010. There are special bonuses for 7 Stars players who have higher tier scores.

"regular 7 stars" is 100,000
level 1 is at 125,000
level 2 is at 200,000
level 3 is at 500,000
level 4 is at 1-million
level 5 is 3-million and up

Now, right now they are saying that the "higher tier levels" earn extra comps. But if they want to tighten their belts a notch or two they can say that the "lower tier levels" will get lesser comps.


Diamond tiers make a lot of sense. I will go twice a year and get atier score of say 30,000 in 7 - 8 nights of play and stay and other diamonds may get to that tier score in 70 nights of play. I have been told my on property hosts as well as a geographicaly locally assigned host that that will have an affect on what can be offerred which makes s ense to me, not just because i do it in 2 trips as opposed to 12 trips but becuase it makes good business sense. They are in business to mae money after all.




Quote

Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Hi Garth. Harrah's is famous for handing out the free rooms. The cut backs I am referring to include free play, shopping sprees and gift promotions. What used to be standard $2500 promos for 7 Stars players have been scaled back to $1250 or even $750. At the same time, the list of stores cooperating with Harrahs for their shopping sprees has also been cut back, indicating that Harrahs was unable to "buy down" the stores to cooperate. The various properties this year also started something new: you could take "free play" instead of the gifts and the strategy with that is that the "free play" probably would cost the casino less than the value of the gift (video poker excluded for this swap, slot machines only though they have allowed some table vouchers). Free rooms will never go away for Harrahs (now Caesars)... unless they take a cue from LVS. Free rooms is the "loss leader" of the Loveman strategy figuring once you are on the property you will gamble, you will see a show, you will use the restaurants, you will use the gift shops more than the cost of the room.

edited to add:

The company recently started something new: they are breaking up "Diamond" into various tiers. This opens the door to scaling back the "lower diamond offers" from the "higher diamond players."

A similar thing was done for 7 Stars in early 2010. There are special bonuses for 7 Stars players who have higher tier scores.

"regular 7 stars" is 100,000
level 1 is at 125,000
level 2 is at 200,000
level 3 is at 500,000
level 4 is at 1-million
level 5 is 3-million and up

Now, right now they are saying that the "higher tier levels" earn extra comps. But if they want to tighten their belts a notch or two they can say that the "lower tier levels" will get lesser comps.


Quote

Originally posted by: barney44
Diamond tiers make a lot of sense. I will go twice a year and get atier score of say 30,000 in 7 - 8 nights of play and stay and other diamonds may get to that tier score in 70 nights of play. I have been told my on property hosts as well as a geographicaly locally assigned host that that will have an affect on what can be offerred which makes s ense to me, not just because i do it in 2 trips as opposed to 12 trips but becuase it makes good business sense. They are in business to mae money after all.








That is really more about ADT than the new 'tiers within Diamond' thing that they have rolled out at Rincon and some other places

Harrahs/Caesars has always offered more to the 30K tier score Diamond player who earned that in less than 10 visits than the 30K tier score player who is there 5 nights a week, because the first player's average theoretical loss is way higher

Practically everyone has posted things we regret saying or regret phrasing a certain way. It goes a long way if one can acknowledge it in public.

Your post, Tomdoug.

I do see Bard's point. I don't really condone violence but at times one must stand up for one's values. If you would re read my postings in question, I believe that I only was replying to another who I felt started the confrontation. It is easy to sit behind a keyboard and verbally attack another- it is a little different when one can confront their counterpart in person. As far as I am concerned anyone who post's here is in essence no different than having a conversation in person with another. People will use the internet to be brave and say things they would not dare say in person. Though in some peoples minds I might be thought of as ban worthy, I will not stand for anyone to be disrespectful of another. If anyone finds my comments inappropriate then they have the power to put me on ignore. I am under the impression that these forums were started under the premise that information would be given and exchanged - not as a place for personal attacks and objectionable comments.
drmilled didnt even make a real threat.

he said "if you said that in person" and we all know the poster would never dare say that without the safety of the world wide web between him and sue, so its all moot anyway.
Well, thank you for the clarification and for acknowledging that I have a point. It will make a difference in the way I interpret your future posts. Obviously, I do not have you or Alanleroy on "ignore", nor do I claim never to annoy anyone myself. In fact, sometimes it's fun.

To any others commenting on my comments- if it was not to you or about you, there's a certain generation loss in effect similar to that from copying videocassettes.
The worst comp rescinding I experienced was when Harrah's took over Caesars' and, despite repeatedly saying sports/race comp rates would get better and banked comps would be worth more (I asked each and every trip), Harrah's reduced the value of banked sports/race comps by 60% with no warning. Fortunately I didn't trust what they said and used all but two hundred or so in comps, but these were banked. The comp value was set -- yet they just waved a wand and made everything worth 60% less. No 90-day warning, no 30-day warning, no nothing. One day I had $200 in comps, the next day $80. A lot of people lost thousands in comps that they would have spent if Caesars' hadn't flat out lied about what was going to happen.
redietz. this is true that in the conversion, comps were lost. my host advised me to "clean out" my comps prior to the harrah's takeover.... I went shopping in the Caesars gift shops loading up on cameras, perfumes, clothing and BATHROBES which made wonderful holiday gifts. I was also led to believe that I would be 7 Stars in the turnover -- but was Diamond the first year under the Harrahs -- so my RFB play under caesars wasnt good enuf for Loveman.

Justmare: what slapinfunk left out of his post is that WE STILL get monthly free play offers from Pechanga. I get $200 per month, $50 a week, but I dont bother stopping in. When the offers were for $500 we stopped by.
But ya still did it, so you have no business calling other people out for that sort of behavior. lol
Already a LVA subscriber?
To continue reading, choose an option below:
Diamond Membership
$3 per month
Unlimited access to LVA website
Exclusive subscriber-only content
Limited Member Rewards Online
Join Now
or
Platinum Membership
$50 per year
Unlimited access to LVA website
Exclusive subscriber-only content
Exclusive Member Rewards Book
Join Now