Venetian/Palazzo RESCINDING offers that have already been booked!!!

I have something to contribute. But I am holding out for Page 17.
Bard, I prefer casinos when they are less busy.

I have no idea if this is true or not. Shortly after Wynn opened, a LV cab driver told me rooms cost the hotel $25 a night, whether there at an upscale place or an average place.
Nevermind. I'm waiting for friedmush on Page 17.

I dont doubt the $25 per night figure and Im just throwing these factors out for costs of empty hotel rooms:

utilities. they must be kept at an appropriate temperature at all times.

property taxes. even vacant rooms are part of the property and taxed. the prop tax rate in Clark County is a little bit above 3%. I dont think its different for casinos, but correct me if it is.

housekeeping. even empty rooms have to be checked-- if not serviced. that takes time and money.

amortization of investment. even empty rooms cost something to build and furnish and that cost has to be amortized over a period of time. thats a cost.

now about the idea that empty rooms lead to empty casinos?? well, this goes back to the basic issue. if you fill the empty rooms with players who won't play (gamble) at appropriate levels and milk comps and free drinks you only compound your losses. so you don't fill up empty rooms with low level players who wont gamble appropriately and spend money in other profit-making areas on the property.

in the airline industry (many years ago I was connected-- and I mean MANY years ago) we used to say that when a plane takes off with an empty seat it was lost revenue forever. but the reality was that if we priced tickets too low, we would lose even more because of the cost of meal (yes, there were meals then), the cost of the fuel, and perhaps costs of serving the passenger and taking away service from other passengers paying higher fares. the trick back then was to have revenue per passenger miles always exceed the cost per passenger mile.

and I am sure it is the same in the casino business. every guest in a hotel (casino player or not) has to be producing revenue greater than cost.

want to help hold down your room charges? turn off the lights when you leave the room. I do.

Well Money, I have read all of your postsand was wonderring it wasn't the old charter company Five Star Airlines per chance?
Snidely, you were done in by juxtaposition. My latest post was not intended for you. Although you did ask the original question, I had answered it and moved on. Then the sitcom fixated nonreader piped up. Sorry for the confusion. As to rhetorical questions, if they have actual answers which apply to the issue, then those answers are both relevant and perhaps enlightening.

MissL7777, your booking preference is similar to mine. However, years of reading posts by people who expect to be comped in precisely this way or that led me to make the statement about which nights people generally like to be comped. That sort of thinking (as you may have noticed) is rather more prevalent on the paid side than it is here. But honestly, if I played as much as they do (and I assume lost as much as they do) I might cop the same attitude as theirs.

MoneyLA has made a point which expands somewhat on the issue of high maintenance/low return guests which one of my posts also mentioned:

"now about the idea that empty rooms lead to empty casinos?? well, this goes back to the basic issue. if you fill the empty rooms with players who won't play (gamble) at appropriate levels and milk comps and free drinks you only compound your losses. so you don't fill up empty rooms with low level players who wont gamble appropriately and spend money in other profit-making areas on the property."

At the risk of actually being irrelevant, rather than just being called so, I maintain that many (although perhaps not most) of us who were receiving weeknight room comps at V/P did in fact spend quite a lot of money in other profit-making areas of the casino. I did so partly out of gratitude for the comp and because I knew that to play as much as was expected was a chore for me, and we don't go to Vegas to do chores. Whether or not such expenditures were tracked and factored into some sort of overall guest value profile, I do not know, but it seems unfair to assume that guests who don't play much also don't spend much. It was mean and inaccurate to assume as well that these guests "milk comps and free drinks" and to use the derogatory term "milk" to describe the action. The casino is not anybody's mother. More to the point of the original post, it is and always will be rude to take back a proffered tit.

And now to the issue of my lovely mug. Once a student of mine, age fifteen, told me I resemble Phil Jackson. Phil and I had much bigger hair then, but that was pretty much the only resemblance I could see. After that, I always assumed that people see in you what they want to see.
Dang, this thread is stuck on page 16. Now we'll never get to read what Friedmush wants to contribute.
My airline experience goes waaaaaay back to Eastern and PanAm.
In the interest to getting to page 17 to find out Friedmush's contribution, I'll add that I just booked a trip to Vegas but I screwed up on my double booking. Instead of booking my two offers on the same days, allowing me to run back and forth between the two casinos, I booked them back to back forcing me to stay in Vegas for a longer trip and spend extra days eating, drinking, and gambling.
If you don't *expect* anything ............ you'll never be disappointed !
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