Voter IDs

Would liberals object to finger print scanning?
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Originally posted by: hoops2
Would liberals object to finger print scanning?
Probably not if it makes you happy. Since there have only been about 30 cases verified voter impersonation in the last billion votes, it does seem like a bit of a waste. Voter ID laws are a solution in search of a problem.

But as of last year Donald Trump's campaign manager was registered to vote in a home he didn't even live in. And a few years ago, Mitt Romney registered to vote in Massachusetts by claiming he lived in his son's unfinished basement. If Republicans want to complain about voter fraud, they need to clean up their own act first.
90 cases in Texas alone with 70 convictions
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Originally posted by: hoops2
90 cases in Texas alone with 70 convictions
I don't believe you.

I'm not a liberal, but a Republican who would be opposed to such a price tag for an issue that is practically non-existent. Only 31 cases nationally out of one billion votes. And finger-print scanning wouldn't prevent most of those cases because they involve purposely registering at a different address to be able to vote for a favored candidate and those kinds of things. ... And besides placing fingerprint scanners in all polling sites would undermine the conspiracists' agendas.

Edited to add: There have only been 10 cases of voter impersonation nationally, the kind of fraud that finger-print scanning would be designed to prevent.



Just because it is rarely prosecuted, doesn't mean fraud does not occur. For you democrats, it is kinda like Clinton corruption - no doubt it exists, but it is rarely prosecuted. Good Article


Data from the 2012 election shows a large number of ineligible voters on the voter rolls. ....via the Pew Research Center:

•There were almost "24 million active voter registrations in the U.S. either invalid or inaccurate."
•Almost two million dead Americans were still on the active voting lists.
•12 million voter records were riddled with "incorrect addresses or other errors."

A number of congressional elections have been decided by voter fraud. The most notable of which was the election of Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) in 2008. Political scientist professors Jesse Richman and David Earnest noted that Franken only won by 312 votes, meaning that "votes cast by just 0.65 percent of Minnesota non-citizens could account for this margin." Noncitizens, the professors note, overwhelmingly supported Democrats that year. There were also 1,099 felons that voted in that race, all of whom were ineligible to do so.

Other examples of voter fraud deciding congressional elections from Fund's City Journal piece:

A 1996 INS investigation into alleged Motor Voter fraud in California's 46th congressional district discovered that "4,023 illegal voters possibly cast ballots in the disputed election between Republican Robert Dornan and Democrat Loretta Sanchez." Dornan lost by fewer than 1,000 votes. In 2002, Dean Gardner, a losing GOP candidate for California's state legislature, sent out a survey to 14,000 first-time voters. A total of 1,691 surveys came back. The results were startling: 76 people admitted that they weren't citizens but had voted, while 49 claimed not to have registered at their correct residence, as the law requires. Gardner lost by only 266 votes.

In the 2000 election, as the Missouri secretary of state later discovered, 56,000 St. Louis-area voters held multiple voter registrations. No one knows how much actual fraud took place, but it may have played a role in the Democratic defeats of incumbent Republican senator John Ashcroft, who lost his seat by 49,000 votes, and gubernatorial candidate Jim Talent, who lost by 21,000 votes.

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Originally posted by: jphelan
Just because it is rarely prosecuted, doesn't mean fraud does not occur. For you democrats, it is kinda like Clinton corruption - no doubt it exists, but it is rarely prosecuted.
YOU MEAN LIKE HILLARY MURDERING VINCE FOSTER? YEP, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU MEANT.

...Data from the 2012 election shows a large number of ineligible voters on the voter rolls. ....via the Pew Research Center:

•There were almost "24 million active voter registrations in the U.S. either invalid or inaccurate."
WHICH WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED BY VOTER ID LAWS.

•Almost two million dead Americans were still on the active voting lists.
WHICH WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED BY VOTER ID LAWS.

•12 million voter records were riddled with "incorrect addresses or other errors."
WHICH WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED BY VOTER ID LAWS.

A number of congressional elections have been decided by voter fraud. The most notable of which was the election of Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) in 2008. Political scientist professors Jesse Richman and David Earnest...
DON'T ACTUALLY MAKE THAT CLAIM. SO IT'S JUST YOU MAKING SHIT UP AGAIN.
You guys really need to listen closely to today's news. There are thousands of cases of people voting several times, as well as the favored Chicago tactic, voting by the deceased.....then there is another Dem scheme of paying for votes.....and reports of touch screen votes that default to one candidate. In the overall, it doesn't mean a lot, but it can AND does alter smaller vote outcomes.

What pisses me off and should piss everyone off, is one, just one illegal vote offsets your legitimate vote. Not having to provide ID to vote is a travesty.

Here's hoping that my friends on the left start to get out more often. Forkush.....you push this line of bull all the time. And you KNOW that you are lying through your teeth. Whenever you start to build some credibility, you manage to come up with something like this.
Fingerprint scanning would eliminate this & the risk of people casting multiple votes. forky - what are you afraid of?

There were almost "24 million active voter registrations in the U.S. either invalid or inaccurate."
WHICH WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED BY VOTER ID LAWS.

•Almost two million dead Americans were still on the active voting lists.
WHICH WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED BY VOTER ID LAWS.

•12 million voter records were riddled with "incorrect addresses or other errors."
WHICH WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED BY VOTER ID LAWS.
We can "thank" voter fraud for Al Franken......
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