Voter IDs

Boils, like most morons, aspires to someday be stupid. Keep hope alive.
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Originally posted by: friedmush
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Originally posted by: jphelan
I'm glad voterID is not necessary.

Wouldn't it prevent the dead from voting?

Dead Vote in Chicago

And it Ain't Just Happening in Chicago

Why not just show your drivers license, passport, OR social security card? The social security numbers should be validated against a database to eliminate the dead voters.


You might consider linking to stories that support your position. From you second link:

"It’s true that she committed voter fraud. But it’s also true that she was caught, charged, and punished for it. These aren’t the days of ballot box stuffing, and while errors do occur, significant discrepancies are typically spotted and acted upon. Perhaps, even more importantly, she was charged with 19 counts over a series of elections between 2009 and 2012, in which she placed one or two extra votes in Bridgeport Town Council elections, a city of some 150,000 people. It is exceedingly unlikely that her extra votes had any impact whatsoever.

Conversely, according to a report from the Brennan Center for Justice, up to 11 percent of voters could be rendered unable to vote by voter ID laws. A restriction that, unlike one or two extra votes, could have a significant impact on elections, and one that demonstrably impacts poor people and minorities very disproportionately.

Of course, all of this ignores one other important fact. Ayala’s voter fraud could not have been prevented by a voter ID law.

Ayala executed her crime by voting in elections in districts where she was registered as living, but did not actually live, something that presenting ID would do nothing to prevent.

Voter fraud does exist and does happen, and nobody denies that. But it is so rare as to be statistically nonexistent, and the few fraudulent votes that are placed have in all probability never changed the results of a single election. This is something that can’t be said of voter ID laws, which many proponents admit. Politicians who have fought to enact strict voter ID laws have repeatedly stated on record that they believe them to have impacted the 2008 Presidential election results.

So, while the story now being circulated is true, it’s not only out of date, but it draws conclusions that simply can’t be rationally drawn from the example. If anything, the story of Christina Ayala and her 19 counts of voter fraud demonstrate that it’s simply not a problem we need to worry about.

Read more at https://www.inquisitr.com/3557550/democrat-christina-ayala-did-commit-19-counts-of-voter-fraud-but-its-not-new-and-its-not-common/#taiYD7Ef6cxWJSte.99"

^ From your post.


So someone got caught illegaly voting 19 times and this is "not evidence" of voter fraud. ANY voter fraud is unacceptable and it is amazing how much is uncovered when people crunch the numbers by cross referencing voters to list of dead people. We should cross reference duplicate names in different precincts / states because people move all the time.

Require a social security number to vote - everyone has one and there is no charge. Then it is easy to cross reference SSN's for duplicate votes and dead people. How could any sane American oppose this simple reform?


Claims that voter IDs laws would discriminate against the "poor" is a diversion tactic. The real reason for the opposition is the desire to continue fraudulent voting.
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Originally posted by: OddsWrkin
Claims that voter IDs laws would discriminate against the "poor" is a diversion tactic. The real reason for the opposition is the desire to continue fraudulent voting.
You mean the 30 verified cases of voter impersonation in the last billion votes?

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Originally posted by: hoops2
90 cases in Texas alone with 70 convictions
It's been a couple days since you were challenged to verify that claim.

And I still don't believe you.
If you examine the indictments in Texas, you will see many are of election officials. Voter fraud is extremely rare and issuing every eligible voter a government id would be very expensive.
But I will play along. Let's issue a Federal Voting ID.
Do we raise taxes to pay for this, or add to the deficit? Or do we take funds from entitlements since its only a problem for the poor and elderly?
It's not a problem for the poor or the elderly. You think you get Medicare without ID?
If you are a functioning citizen, you have ID.....if you aren't, and that is a REALLY small number, the states will get you one.
I can't believe what some people have to force themselves to believe to be liberal.
Why do some oppose voter ID? You have to have a photo ID to open a bank account, to cash a check, to use a credit card, to buy cigarettes, to buy liquor, to fly on a plane, to sign up for your social security payments, to sign up for a snap card, to register to vote....and on and on!!!!!!!!!!!!! So why not show a photo ID to vote?
If not voter ID, a social security number.......EVERYONE has one. Easy to check for duplicates and dead folks. It would be even better if the polling place could confirm the name on the social security record to the registered voter name. If Forest Gump is voting with a social security number of Paul Kowalski, you might want to ask some questions. How could that disenfranchise anyone?
The statistics regarding voter fraud are just as accurate as the illegal immigration statistics. Both groups will do whatever they can to avoid detection. Nobody know the real numbers.

The only valid reason to object to a requirement of an ID is to exploit the system. Any other argument is nothing more than a diversion.
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