Voter IDs

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Originally posted by: friedmush

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Originally posted by: jphelan
I'm glad voterID is not necessary.

Wouldn't it prevent the dead from voting?

Dead Vote in Chicago

And it Ain't Just Happening in Chicago

Why not just show your drivers license, passport, OR social security card? The social security numbers should be validated against a database to eliminate the dead voters.

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You might consider linking to stories that support your position. From you second link:

"It’s true that she committed voter fraud. But it’s also true that she was caught, charged, and punished for it. These aren’t the days of ballot box stuffing, and while errors do occur, significant discrepancies are typically spotted and acted upon. Perhaps, even more importantly, she was charged with 19 counts over a series of elections between 2009 and 2012, in which she placed one or two extra votes in Bridgeport Town Council elections, a city of some 150,000 people. It is exceedingly unlikely that her extra votes had any impact whatsoever.

Conversely, according to a report from the Brennan Center for Justice, up to 11 percent of voters could be rendered unable to vote by voter ID laws. A restriction that, unlike one or two extra votes, could have a significant impact on elections, and one that demonstrably impacts poor people and minorities very disproportionately.

Of course, all of this ignores one other important fact. Ayala’s voter fraud could not have been prevented by a voter ID law.

Ayala executed her crime by voting in elections in districts where she was registered as living, but did not actually live, something that presenting ID would do nothing to prevent.

Voter fraud does exist and does happen, and nobody denies that. But it is so rare as to be statistically nonexistent, and the few fraudulent votes that are placed have in all probability never changed the results of a single election. This is something that can’t be said of voter ID laws, which many proponents admit. Politicians who have fought to enact strict voter ID laws have repeatedly stated on record that they believe them to have impacted the 2008 Presidential election results.

So, while the story now being circulated is true, it’s not only out of date, but it draws conclusions that simply can’t be rationally drawn from the example. If anything, the story of Christina Ayala and her 19 counts of voter fraud demonstrate that it’s simply not a problem we need to worry about.

Read more at https://www.inquisitr.com/3557550/democrat-christina-ayala-did-commit-19-counts-of-voter-fraud-but-its-not-new-and-its-not-common/#taiYD7Ef6cxWJSte.99"

^ From your post.

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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman
Mally has a point. Stupid people, lazy people, and especially stupid lazy people tend to vote Democrat...

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Originally posted by: jphelan

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Originally posted by: friedmush

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Originally posted by: jphelan
I'm glad voterID is not necessary.

Wouldn't it prevent the dead from voting?

Dead Vote in Chicago

And it Ain't Just Happening in Chicago

Why not just show your drivers license, passport, OR social security card? The social security numbers should be validated against a database to eliminate the dead voters.

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You might consider linking to stories that support your position. From you second link:

"It’s true that she committed voter fraud. But it’s also true that she was caught, charged, and punished for it. These aren’t the days of ballot box stuffing, and while errors do occur, significant discrepancies are typically spotted and acted upon. Perhaps, even more importantly, she was charged with 19 counts over a series of elections between 2009 and 2012, in which she placed one or two extra votes in Bridgeport Town Council elections, a city of some 150,000 people. It is exceedingly unlikely that her extra votes had any impact whatsoever.

Conversely, according to a report from the Brennan Center for Justice, up to 11 percent of voters could be rendered unable to vote by voter ID laws. A restriction that, unlike one or two extra votes, could have a significant impact on elections, and one that demonstrably impacts poor people and minorities very disproportionately.

Of course, all of this ignores one other important fact. Ayala’s voter fraud could not have been prevented by a voter ID law.

Ayala executed her crime by voting in elections in districts where she was registered as living, but did not actually live, something that presenting ID would do nothing to prevent.

Voter fraud does exist and does happen, and nobody denies that. But it is so rare as to be statistically nonexistent, and the few fraudulent votes that are placed have in all probability never changed the results of a single election. This is something that can’t be said of voter ID laws, which many proponents admit. Politicians who have fought to enact strict voter ID laws have repeatedly stated on record that they believe them to have impacted the 2008 Presidential election results.

So, while the story now being circulated is true, it’s not only out of date, but it draws conclusions that simply can’t be rationally drawn from the example. If anything, the story of Christina Ayala and her 19 counts of voter fraud demonstrate that it’s simply not a problem we need to worry about.

Read more at https://www.inquisitr.com/3557550/democrat-christina-ayala-did-commit-19-counts-of-voter-fraud-but-its-not-new-and-its-not-common/#taiYD7Ef6cxWJSte.99"

^ From your post.

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So someone got caught illegaly voting 19 times and this is "not evidence" of voter fraud. ANY voter fraud is unacceptable and it is amazing how much is uncovered when people crunch the numbers by cross referencing voters to list of dead people. We should cross reference duplicate names in different precincts / states because people move all the time.

Require a social security number to vote - everyone has one and there is no charge. Then it is easy to cross reference SSN's for duplicate votes and dead people. How could any sane American oppose this simple reform?

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