VP autocomplete perfect strategy

Harrah's AC has $1 autocomplete perfect strategy machines. Assuming a +EV or even EV would you APers play or is that too boring?
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Originally posted by: snidely333
Harrah's AC has $1 autocomplete perfect strategy machines. Assuming a +EV or even EV would you APers play or is that too boring?


Anybody with sense would play it with a positive EV.
Yeah obviously. But, would you play autocomplete or rather play your own choices?

Does it know the 'special' short term plays?
It is a 7/5 JOB pay table and I didn't see anyone playing them. It is a multi game but I'm not looking up other paytables. I've seen enough.

Maybe they could market a Singer Special Play machine.
I'd definitely play it as autocomplete if:

1. We're certain it's computer perfect AND

2. The game return with cash back and/or bounce back exceeds 100%

The faster the better assuming you have the bankroll to support the variance.

OTOH, if it's a negative expectation game as I'm sure the 7/5 JoB table is with whatever free play/bounce back you receive, it's still a bad play. So, in this case, I wouldn't play it at all and anyone who wants to consider playing it recreationally may consider playing it on their own without autocomplete. While they may give up a bit on return, the slower pace of play may offset this.

Dan
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Originally posted by: fedomalley
I'd definitely play it as autocomplete if:

1. We're certain it's computer perfect AND

2. The game return with cash back and/or bounce back exceeds 100%

The faster the better assuming you have the bankroll to support the variance.

OTOH, if it's a negative expectation game as I'm sure the 7/5 JoB table is with whatever free play/bounce back you receive, it's still a bad play. So, in this case, I wouldn't play it at all and anyone who wants to consider playing it recreationally may consider playing it on their own without autocomplete. While they may give up a bit on return, the slower pace of play may offset this.

Dan


What Dan says with one minor difference.........

Re: #1 Even if not computer perfect for strategy, as long as the option to change the "hold" before the draw is available.

I would expect that would be part of the games play.



wouldnt play it...
I recall some VP expert... not sure if its Dancer or the Wizard... wrote about auto complete VP machines that do not make the correct choice in certain unusual hands. I think it was the Wizard. But there were only a couple of cases.

but even with perfect play, 7/5 JOB is not exactly a winning game.
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