VP Players: ever offered to "buy" a neighbor's hand?

thank you noahcat, shooter, knagl. glad to know you guys are out there.

blackjesus, you must be having a rough day. everyone has noticed what you wrote in the other thread about prayers. you are now on my ignore list.

Thanks JM, at least I know its not me when I ask for advice about how to play a hand.

To answer the question, n/a, n/a - due to the fact that I am not an experienced player and have no business giving ANY type of VP advice.

It has never occurred to me to "buy" another player's hand, and I'm not inclined to give advice unless I'm asked for it. I will interact with other players. Even when I'm in Vegas for work, when I'm in a casino playing, it is for relaxation, entertainment, and hopefully profit. That's why most of us are there, isn't it?

I have given advice when asked. I've asked for advice (though not recently). My very first royal flush was in 1998. I was playing a 25-cent three coin (Yes, Three Coin!) max bet JOB progressive machine at the Wild Card casino in Black Hawk Colorado. The progressive for a royal on the three coin machines started at $600. The progressive for a royal that afternoon was up to $965 when I was dealt a flush with 4 to a royal. I asked the player next to me what I should do - keep the flush or go for the royal. She told me she'd go for the royal. That's what I did, and it hit! I still had some quarters left from the $10 roll I bought to play that game.

Money,
It would seem hard for me to play at my best while watching the players next to me.

God knows that the casinos provide enough intentional distractions to side-track our thinking,
so I would think that anything we can do to minimize that would be beneficial,
but to voluntarily ADD distractions while one is playing does not appear to be the most intelligent of strategies.

I try to keep focused, eyes straight ahead,
and totally be absorbed with MY machine, ................. MY dealt hands and MY credits.

It's kind of one of those unwritten VP rules (like drinking no alcohol while playing), ........................ Minimize the Distractions.


Rick

Noahcat, by helping a person "win", only gives the casino more reason to lower the paytables.

Just maybe it's these un-informed players making their stupid mistakes, that helps us to "win".


Rick

Rick,
You always talk about karma and such.
I imagine I am in a casino about 10 hours every 6 weeks.
I think helping my neighbor is more important than worrying about corporations lowering the pay scale/tables..IF they ask or hesitate- it's my pleasure to tell them basic strategy reminding them it's their money and can do as they please.
Hell- took me 15/20 years to learn and I still ask/double check if my ECLVAers are around.

I am uber aware.. I wish I wasn't but I am.
I have fantastic Peripheral . I can play both neightbors hands AND mine--(I don't mind you but I could) I am too aware of everything.
The dim of the casino actually helps me get in the zone.

Okay Noahcat.

If you want to help your VP neighbors that's fine with me,
but I'd have a small problem if you started giving them bottles of your Lucky Glitter


Rick

When my VP neighbor strikes up a conversation with me, it's usually along the lines of "You looking for come company tonght, honey?"

When I strike up a conversation with my VP neighbor, it's usually along the lines of "Hey, your cigarette is burning a hole in the carpet".

Very interesting topic. I, like Noahcat, am also blessed/cursed with the ability to see every hand 3 machines in either direction. Most of my friends don't notice other peoples hands, and tease me like crazy for noticing. I play alot of VP and generally know what to hold as the 5th card is dealt. My LV buddy jokes around about my comment to "Hold the 3's!" as he was holding a king, not noticing a pair of 3's in his hand. One of my local friends holds, then unholds, the card as she is making the decision. I absolutely cannot sit by her, even tho she usually ends up deciding on the right play.

That said, I've moved a number of times when someone beside me continues to make stupid plays, it distracts me to no end.

As for offering advice, I don't say anything unless asked. To your example on the Aces/ten full house, I've had a neighbor ask what I would do...I answered, hold the aces. They said "But I never get the fourth ace". My answer is - they are playing DDB poker, if they want to hold a full house dealt with 3 aces, they should be playing JOB. BUT, if you're gonna play DDB, the correct play is hold the aces.

By the way, she held the aces and got the 4th (no kicker) and screamed "You were right". I replied "The play was right, even if you didn't land the 4th ace. "

It amazes me the number of people who obviously don't have a clue about VP playing the machines.... very painful.

I would never give unsolicited advice or offer to buy a hand. I will give advice when asked, but hate when said advice is ignored. On 10/7 DB have seen players hold four royal cards over a pat straight flush, and four consecutive straight flush cards over a pat flush. Both times over my advice, and both times I felt a little ill watching them do it.

Edited to add--both cases ended in losses...or at least failure to recoup the original pay.