W-2 forms. HOW are you supposed to claim your losses against your winnings?

Keep track,sure. How do you prove that you spent $1,000 into a machine like VP, and put that amount towards your winnings?
For more that $1,200?

Keep your receipts for the hotel/casino or ask for a print out of your slot play?
At the players club or the main cage?
Sure ,you can prove that you were there,but if you hit for $4,000,how do you prove that it cost $1,000 to get that jack pot?

It's your losses against your "Profit",correct?
How will you convince your tax person that Your first "pull" on that video poker machine didn't win you the big one?
How many receipts do you need and where is the proof of your losses?

BTW not me,yet. My turn is in October,downtown.

We have been there B-4 and have answered this question MANY times.
Same for table games.
How do you prove that it costs you $1,000 to win that $4,000?
Is this only for professional gamblers?

Based on your income,you will PAY. But it wasn't FREE money.

First, you have to itemize so you need enough deductions to make it work. Gambling wins/losses are on one of the Schedules. I think its C but might be D. I dont do my own taxes.
You can obtain Won/Loss records from any casino you have a players card with, but the IRS doesnt always accept them as proof.
Its a good idea to keep a diary, although not required.
If you already have a tax person, they'll know what is needed.

Some people hang around sports books picking up losing tickets. I assume they use them for off setting winnings, although I have no direct knowledge of this.
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Originally posted by: billryan
Its a good idea to keep a diary, although not required.



NOT TRUE. Per IRS regs, you must keep a contemporaneous diary with date, casino name, game played, machine number, session wins and losses (but what constitutes a "session" has not been defined by the IRS and there are various interpertations that have been accepted) and maybe some other data.

By and large, keeping track of gambling wins and losses are done by the honor system. You receive a W-2G on slot/video poker wins of $1,200 and higher. You do not receive any documentation on wins of less than $1,200. You do not receive any documentation on table game wins.

If you itemize your deductions, you can claim gambling losses up to the amount of gambling winnings. If you don't itemize, you're stuck.





https://apps.irs.gov/app/picklist/list/formsPublications.html?value=W2-G&criteria=formNumber&submitSearch=Find
Yes,you have to itemize to claim any deductions against your winnings.
It a 2 step.
The casino takes out 25% for you.
You itemize and then claim losses against your winnings.
Miscellaneous income.
Is that it?
W2-G form.

https://apps.irs.gov/app/picklist/list/formsPublications.html?value=W2-G&criteria=formNumber&submitSearch=Find

I'm having trouble pasting links.

At the end of the year you can request a win/loss statement from your casino or casino's. This is why one must have a players card (much easier) to verify wins vs loss.
I have never been questioned by the IRS on my returns where I show the information the casino records show. The diary idea would be a huge pain in the ass, however many people like to track day to day play and that let's them do it.
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Originally posted by: Don the Dentist
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Originally posted by: billryan
Its a good idea to keep a diary, although not required.



NOT TRUE. Per IRS regs, you must keep a contemporaneous diary with date, casino name, game played, machine number, session wins and losses (but what constitutes a "session" has not been defined by the IRS and there are various interpertations that have been accepted) and maybe some other data.

When poor old DonDiego was a more regular patron of casinos he would always have a 3"X5" file card with him, and he would keep track of his gambling sessions, . . . pretty much blackjack and occasional slot-play. He also kept records of his sports betting history.

Especially for the 2 years in which he had some significant blackjack tournament winnings, he itemized his winnings and losses as "other miscellaneous deductions" on Form 1040A Schedule A.
All went well, . . . no questions. asked.

"It is important to keep an accurate diary or similar record of your gambling winnings and losses. To deduct your losses, you must be able to provide receipts, tickets, statements, or other records that show the amount of both your winnings and losses. Refer to Publication 529, Miscellaneous Deductions, for more information."
Ref: IRS - Topic 419

Some people recommend whenever one is at a race track, f'rinstance, it's a good idea to pick up some tossed losing betting slips from the ground and save then, just in case one needs some deductions. DonDiego says do not do this, as it is not legal to declare losses that are not one's own; and some of the betting slips may have shoe prints on them too.
It is NOT required to keep a personal diary of gambling. More about that later.

Professional gamblers file differently, as they can deduct certain related expenses. Doesn't apply to your questions.

The win/loss statements "prove" your yearly losses equal/exceed your winnings. The tax thing is about the whole year, not just one gambling session or gambling win.

The W2-G is generated when a single pull/win exceeds IRS regulations for that type of game. For slot machines and VP, it is $1200. It is different for Keno, for horseracing, etc. There are no regulations for table wins (live ones...I don't know about electronic blackjack, etc.), therefore no WG-2 is generated for table wins (which of course is good for the gambler). You don't do anything about a W2-G win (other than save it) until time to submit that year's tax return the next year.

Anyway, the machine locks up, they bring you the W2-G to sign, they give you a copy which you keep. The casino sends their copy to the IRS. If you itemize on your return for that year, you (or your CPA) will enter each W2-G for each win. That shows your gambling winnings for the year. In Vegas they don't deduct state taxes from winnings. In Arkansas and Mississippi, state taxes are deducted from winnings when they pay you. Probably other states as well.

Your casino win/loss statements show the total of your winnings or losses for that casino for that year. This isn't broken down into days or weeks or anything. Some list jackpot winnings separately, but I think most just include it in the total of your winnings.

You can only claim losses up to the amount of your winnings, but at least those winnings don't increase your taxable income.

You can have hits/wins of $100 all day long on a slot machine, for example, but only when one single hit/win is at $1200 or more does the machine lock up and a W2-G is issued to you (and the IRS). Those are the only ones you are concerned about.

When/if you are audited, you receive a "Dear Taxpayer" letter containing all the information you need to submit to support your tax return for the year they request. Included in the communication from the IRS is a booklet which tells you what to do, including the types of "evidence" accepted, which includes casino win/loss statements. Also losing sports, horseracing, lottery, keno, etc. tickets are accepted. Also, the personal diary is accepted, but not mandated.

I was audited. I submitted only my Win/Loss statements from each casino, the total of which documented my losses which met/exceeded the total of my W2-G winnings claimed.

These were accepted as "evidence" of my losses, no further action required.
I had not kept, have never kept, a personal diary.

Most people wait until after the end of the year to send for their casino win/loss statements. They often aren't completed until January or February anyway. Just file them away at home.

If you receive notice of audit, you have a pretty good amount of time to reply. You can get win/loss statements for years back if you haven't already. You might forget the casinos you played at should you be audited for a year five or six or so in the past, so best to get them after the end of each year that you will be submitting a W2-G.

The win/loss statements contain a disclaimer that they cannot verify its accuracy and the accuracy of your wins and losses, which leads people to believe they are not accepted by the IRS, but again this is not so. Read the IRS instructions. Some folks have said their w/l statements looked wrong, so keeping a diary may be helpful for some. I tried one time...couldn't keep up. The statements usually have a number to call if you think you w/l is way wrong. I don't know how that would work. Maybe they run your card number through again, or something.
That's very helpful,Candy. Thank you!

I just got a PDF from the Main Street Station for 2015 statement.
Total win statement:$1,455.
After the request at B connected,the report was generated and it popped into my junk folder right away!
NONE of my winnings was reported to the IRS.
I walked out the door with that money.
I did not fill out any W2-G forms in 2015.
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Originally posted by: ddd228
That's very helpful,Candy. Thank you!

I just got a PDF from the Main Street Station for 2015 statement.
Total win statement:$1,455.
After the request at B connected,the report was generated and it popped into my junk folder right away!
NONE of my winnings was reported to the IRS.
I walked out the door with that money.
I did not fill out any W2-G forms in 2015.


Nice knowing you. Say hello to Wesley Snipes and don't drop the soap.


The I.R.S. does NOT know anything about my "winnings".
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