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rdalert447
rdalert447
Feb 9, 2012
10:24pm
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He failed to comply with officer's commands after a vehicle pursuit. He failed to allow officers to handcuff him. He never put the car in park when it was evident the 2000 pound vehicle could roll and kill someone. Officers then used minmal force to handcuff a man that was an obvious threat to himself and others. Officers immediately stopped applying force once the handcuffs are on. With the suspect in custody and under control, the officers realize he may be in midst of a medical emergency and call for an ambulance to render aid. That's what I saw in the video and I applaud the police officers on the scene for preventing an obviously dangerous situation from becoming a fatal tragedy.
snidely333
snidely333
Feb 9, 2012
10:53pm
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Originally posted by: rdalert447
He failed to comply with officer's commands after a vehicle pursuit. He failed to allow officers to handcuff him. He never put the car in park when it was evident the 2000 pound vehicle could roll and kill someone. Officers then used minmal force to handcuff a man that was an obvious threat to himself and others. Officers immediately stopped applying force once the handcuffs are on. With the suspect in custody and under control, the officers realize he may be in midst of a medical emergency and call for an ambulance to render aid. That's what I saw in the video and I applaud the police officers on the scene for preventing an obviously dangerous situation from becoming a fatal tragedy.


He failed to allow officers to handcuff him because he was semi-conscious. Officers used more than minimal force. The officer admits as much when the officer laughed at the end implying that had he known the driver was in a diabetic coma he could have handled him by himself. The driver did not threaten the officers in any manner. Being semi-conscious should not be interpreted as threatening.

I'm ok with what the police did except for the kicking in the head. There was no need for that. That was excessive. How can you argue that kicking someone that is on the ground and in control of 4 officers in the head 5 times is minimal force?
LVrealestateHELP
LVrealestateHELP
Feb 10, 2012
1:35am
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Originally posted by: marcisdave
Quote from Alanleroy:

"It's pretty easy to judge the cop who was kicking him in the head when he was down....and then joking about it. "

I agree 100% ! Was it really a situation that called for that brown shirt dirt bag from Henderson to kick a semi-comatose person numerous times in the head with his goose stepping boots ? Especially when said person already has 4 officers on top of him, one of whom is breaking his ribs with his kneecap !

Did this diabetic ever flash a gun ? A knife ? Come at the officers in a threatening manner ? Even use abusive language at them ? HELL FUCKING NO ! Henderson PD overreacted (something they are damn good at) and beat the hell out of an innocent man.

How can you people on the LVA defend the Henderson police ? Unless you are married to one of them....or is putting out for one of them.....You have no right to defend them. This is dashboard video from a POLICE CAR.....not from Joe Q. Public. The proof is right there before your very eyes.

This tax paying citizen deserved to be protected by the very same police that beat him half to death. He was having a medical emergency. Same as if somebody was having a heart attack, stroke, or severe asthma attack while driving. The HPD cars have the motto painted on them "To Serve And Protect".

Unfortunately, Henderson PD's motto is: "To Beat The Living Shit Out Of Those Who Are In A Medical Emergency And Pose No Threat To Us"

Don't believe me ?.....take a look at that video again. And keep watching it till it sinks in your thick skull. Please tell me......at what point of that video does he become a threat to those officers ? And at what point in that video does he deserve to be gang beaten by 5 officers, some of whom break his ribs and tried to fracture his skull ? At what point ?????

I'm waiting.....


I couldn't agree more. And treegirl is out of her mind for defending these assholes. They should all be fired if not arrested. The asshole laughing should be held down while the victim kicks him in the face 5 or 6 times while laughing like a clown.


LVrealestateHELP
LVrealestateHELP
Feb 10, 2012
1:37am
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Originally posted by: rdalert447
He failed to comply with officer's commands after a vehicle pursuit. He failed to allow officers to handcuff him. He never put the car in park when it was evident the 2000 pound vehicle could roll and kill someone. Officers then used minmal force to handcuff a man that was an obvious threat to himself and others. Officers immediately stopped applying force once the handcuffs are on. With the suspect in custody and under control, the officers realize he may be in midst of a medical emergency and call for an ambulance to render aid. That's what I saw in the video and I applaud the police officers on the scene for preventing an obviously dangerous situation from becoming a fatal tragedy.




"Minimal force"?! You are an idiot.

treegirl
treegirl
Feb 10, 2012
1:48am
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Seems like some on the victims side have some anger issues.
lol

mrmarcus12LVA
mrmarcus12LVA
Feb 10, 2012
2:54am
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Originally posted by: rdalert447
He failed to comply with officer's commands after a vehicle pursuit. He failed to allow officers to handcuff him. He never put the car in park when it was evident the 2000 pound vehicle could roll and kill someone.
There is a difference between (1) doing these things, and (2) doing these things in willful violation of a peace officer's lawful demand. The ability to understand that difference is called intelligence.

Don
Don
Feb 10, 2012
3:29am
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Originally posted by: LVrealestateHELP
The asshole laughing should be held down while the victim kicks him in the face 5 or 6 times while laughing like a clown.
From The Simpsons:
Krusty's Accountant: Let me get this straight. You took all the money you made franchising your name and bet it against the Harlem Globetrotters?
Krusty the Clown: [miserable] Oh, I thought the Generals were due!
[watches the game on TV]
Krusty the Clown: He's spinning the ball on his finger! Just take it! Take it!
[the Globetrotters score]
Krusty the Clown: That game was fixed! They were using a freakin' ladder, for God's sake!

Oh, and by the way, DonDiego doubts that permitting a victim to kick the guilty party in the face 5 or 6 times while laughing as a clown is found in any penal code in the United States, except perhaps the municipality of San Francisco, . . . and even there the victim is to behave as a mime in a high wind, not a laughing clown.
rdalert447
rdalert447
Feb 10, 2012
4:28am
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Originally posted by: LVrealestateHELP
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Originally posted by: rdalert447
He failed to comply with officer's commands after a vehicle pursuit. He failed to allow officers to handcuff him. He never put the car in park when it was evident the 2000 pound vehicle could roll and kill someone. Officers then used minmal force to handcuff a man that was an obvious threat to himself and others. Officers immediately stopped applying force once the handcuffs are on. With the suspect in custody and under control, the officers realize he may be in midst of a medical emergency and call for an ambulance to render aid. That's what I saw in the video and I applaud the police officers on the scene for preventing an obviously dangerous situation from becoming a fatal tragedy.




"Minimal force"?! You are an idiot.


Yes, minimal force. If the minimum force required to stop the threat was ten kicks, twenty kicks, thirty kicks etc than the officer would justified. If the minimum force needed was a taser, they would be justified. if the minimum force needed was a nightstick, they'd be justified. In this instance it was approximately 5 kicks to stop the threat. As soon as the threat was stopped ALL use of force ended.
rdalert447
rdalert447
Feb 10, 2012
4:31am
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Originally posted by: mrmarcus12LVA
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Originally posted by: rdalert447
He failed to comply with officer's commands after a vehicle pursuit. He failed to allow officers to handcuff him. He never put the car in park when it was evident the 2000 pound vehicle could roll and kill someone.
There is a difference between (1) doing these things, and (2) doing these things in willful violation of a peace officer's lawful demand. The ability to understand that difference is called intelligence.


Your argument speaks to whether or not the suspect should've been CHARGED CRIMINALLY for those actions. I never said that. I said the officers were justified in their use of force.
snidely333
snidely333
Feb 10, 2012
5:15am
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well, obviously the officers were not justified in their use of force. Hence the lawsuit and settlement.

Your logic is irrational. No matter the force used, you claim it would be minimal. That makes no sense. In our video we see 5 kicks. Did the 5th kick do something that the 4th kick didn't accomplish? By your logic a 6th kick would also meet your definition of minimal. Your logic seems to indicate the police can keep kicking until you are either dead or handcuffed even though this individual was not fighting the police. There was no threat to the police. Once the facts of the case were known, we realize that zero kicks to the head would been sufficient to subdue the suspect. Therefore, 5 kicks were not the minimum force needed because there was no threat.
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