Weak Dealer on Table Game exploitable?

Imagine my surprise, when while walking through the table games section at a local casino, I stopped to watch a game I've never really taken time to observe. And, I'm glad I did, although what I learned may be "worthless".

Ultimate Texas Holdem.

I observed what I consider a "weak" dealer. Actually, she should not be on a game. Her personality and interaction with players is very good, but her card handling is so poor, weak, that she does not belong on any single deck table game.

During the process of removing the deck from the single deck card shuffler, she exposes the bottom care. During the cut procedure, she again exposed the "new" bottom card of the deck. Every deal. (Her long decorative fingernails interfere with proper card handling techniques.) She definitely does not realize she is doing this. Only middle seats can pick up on this mistake.

This casino only offers Ultimate Texas Poker, and Three card poker dealt with single decks. No, they do not offer Let It Ride, or Caribbean Stud. (Of course, the have other table games, with shoes or CSM's.

If they did, I would probably play when she was on those games, and exploit this weakness to profit.

Dealers work a 30 minute string in this pit. I do not anticipate this weakness will continue to go unnoticed, although management and supervision is not strong. My tentative thoughts are this weak dealer does not provide a meaningful player advantage on the two games that are applicable.

I wonder what others may think?

Is this something that a knowledgeable player could exploit on either Three Card Poker, or Ultimate Hold'em Poker table games?

Thanks.










I'm sure any attempt to see the cards that don't belong to you other than the ones face up on the table is constituted as cheating.
If I was sitting at a table and I see someone making the effort (if possible) and I was taken based on my observation I would blow the whistle .
Shame on the dealer for being so sloppy and careless.
This is a weakness I noticed while walking past the table games, and I than stopped to observe. No special "attempt" is necessary to see the exposed cards from the middle table positions, and the dealer just does not know she is doing so. There is no cheating being attempted. This specific dealer has no clue.

Management/supervision is weak in this place, and all this dealer needs is a little re-education and to shorten two fingernails on each hand. Her table presence and interaction with players is good.

Taking advantage of the extra information may be called "cheating" by some, others would simply call it educated play. It is not a crime to play smart, nor should it be considered cheating as long as the dealer is not doing so intentionally. (Except for those places that consider card counting at BJ as "cheating")

Road Trip if this is Texas Holdem and the advantage for the player in the middle sees a card that will assist him or her against an opposing player I would consider it "cheating" inadvertently.

I agree that it is not the players fault if he or she sees the card . And why wouldn't they use it to their advantage.

I guess if I were to take a seat at this table I should be thinking I have a better chance of winning if there is such a novice dealer.

This is not Live cash game Texas Hold'em.

If you read my original message, I am writing about Ultimate Texas Hold'em, a table game pitting the player against the house, not other players.

If this were a live cash game "Hold'em" dealer, I will capitalize on any and all information. Each card represents 2+% of the deck, and whether a dealer makes that knowledge available by accident, or another player next to me exposes his hand inadvertently, it is not cheating. It is a tremendous advantage.

I will always let a player next to me know they are accidentally exposing their hands. ONCE. I will even show them a better way of looking at their cards. After that, I just take the knowledge.

When it's a dealer, I will usually either speak to the dealer privately, the floor, or room shift manager (I know them all well, and trained a few 20+ years ago as dealers) so dealers technique can be corrected. There are a few dealers that I will not play with, because of bad habits where I know they accidentally expose the bottom card, a burn card, or something, and I am sitting out of position to capitalize on that information. That usually depends on who is playing in the "right" seat, and I'll watch their eyes to see if they notice. If so, I go on a break.

It is the player's responsibility to protect their hand. It is the dealers responsibility to protect the integrity of the game.

If either fails to do so, it is not cheating by a player taking advantage of the knowledge available. In fact, in a tournament, the player failing to protect his cards when looking at them is the person who would receive a warning first, and a penalty if it happens again. Not the player who sees them.



My bad . I'm not a poker player ." Ultimate Poker" wasn,t aware of it.

Thanks for the info.
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