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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Look, I dont need to dispel anything you are saying. the table is a fixed, solid object. it does not change, it does not rotate, it does not move. it is fixed.
the dice do not change.
only the shooter and his throw changes. If the shooter throws the dice one way, they will bounce accordingly. If the shooter throws the dice another way, they will bounce accordingly. the table does not say how the dice will bounce. the table only reacts to how the dice hit the table.
thats it.
Yes, the table makes craps a random game. but the table reacts to the throw of the dice.
the rng in video poker make video poker a random game, but the rng operates on its own.
do you understand the difference?
the wheel and ball drop in roulette make roulette a random game. the shuffling of cards makes blackjack a random game. but the wheel and the shuffle happen outside of what the player does.
in craps the dice only bounce because the shooter threw the dice so they would bounce. as a matter of fact, if the shooter slid the dice-- they wouldnt bounce and they would slide to the end of the table.
please go read the book.
Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Look, I dont need to dispel anything you are saying. the table is a fixed, solid object. it does not change, it does not rotate, it does not move. it is fixed.
the dice do not change.
only the shooter and his throw changes. If the shooter throws the dice one way, they will bounce accordingly. If the shooter throws the dice another way, they will bounce accordingly. the table does not say how the dice will bounce. the table only reacts to how the dice hit the table.
thats it.
Yes, the table makes craps a random game. but the table reacts to the throw of the dice.
the rng in video poker make video poker a random game, but the rng operates on its own.
do you understand the difference?
the wheel and ball drop in roulette make roulette a random game. the shuffling of cards makes blackjack a random game. but the wheel and the shuffle happen outside of what the player does.
in craps the dice only bounce because the shooter threw the dice so they would bounce. as a matter of fact, if the shooter slid the dice-- they wouldnt bounce and they would slide to the end of the table.
please go read the book.
The problem is you can't prove or disprove anything because you haven't done any sorting out of what effects the dice in any scientific way.
Your words here "the table is a fixed, solid object. It does not change, it does not rotate, it does move, it is fixed." Then how can the table react to anything? If I throw a ball at a wall, the ball hits the wall and goes on its merry way. The wall doesn't react, it's just a wall.
The dice do change. They are effected by a number of forces, however since you haven't eliminated any of them, you don't know what forces are at work.
You haven't proven the effect of the shooter in any way scientifically measurable. What is the interaction of the tiny hairs on the hand as they interact with the dice as they are rolled? You are trying to prove a point without any proof. It's like saying the world is round without doing any walking or sailing.
I can see what your going for, but you can't get there yet, you need a car cause your feet can't pedal you to where you want to go. The car's too heavy.