What casino game is decided only by the player?

Point is still going over your head. Oh well. Maybe one day you will figure it out.

There was a point? I thought we were still coming out.

Gentlemen, why do you deny the physics of the game of craps?

Shhhhh..... don't tell them that the only thing random in craps is the throw by the shooter and that how the dice behave on the table is only from the laws of physics.... they don't want to hear that. Shhhh....

This thread also demonstrates a defense mechanism used by the right brain thinkers. Since they are unable to logically understand what is happening they revert to sarcasm/humor to try and hide their lack of logical capabilities. We've seen it throughout this thread by those that simply don't/can't understand simple logic.

Also note moredeals attempt to relate to science by referring to "the physics of the crap game". It is completely laughable since it is "physics" that the left brain thinkers have been using to explain what is going on. It is obvious that moredeals has no idea what the "physics" really means. Very typical for a right brain thinker.

Good one!

I really don't care what you want to call it LA. You can call it physics, randomness, but the fact still remains it's an element that plays a deciding factor in the end result that the shooter doesn't control. Many people have been pointing this out the whole time, but you continue to ignore it. Casinos must love people who are right brain thinkers.

Let me try to spell it out one more time. The dice will bounce according to how the shooter throws them. There is no variable on the table that will "MOVE" the dice one way or another. If the dice hit a pyramid and bounce one way or another it is because the shooter threw the dice in such a way that the dice bounced that way. And should there be an air current that catches the dice, or should there be a 300 pound man who tilts the table, the shooter is the only one responsible for throwing the dice so that they are affected by the air current or by the 300 pound man leaning on the table.

Of course, the shooter is not responsible in the case of absolute interference such as when a player reaches into the bowl and purposely hits the dice. In the case of a shooter throwing the dice and accidentally hitting the player reaching into the bowl to place his money or chips -- that again falls on the shooter.

The game of craps is random-- it is random because of the obstacles on the table. But only the shooter throws the dice and only the shooter's actions will cause the dice to react with those variables.

Is that left brain enough for you yet?

edited to add:

If you don't think the shooter is responsbile for how the dice bounce around, what makes them bounce around?

So craps is a random game by design, but the shooter can overcome that randomness and control the dice to decide the outcome, unlike other games where the payer has no control and the results are completely random.

No, but it's laughable. Several people have pointed out over and over again that the dice can come up with different results on each throw. Most of us already know that if someone tossed the dice the same way each time the results will still not be the same. I like how you argue that craps is decided only by the player because he/she throws dice onto an object that will create a random result due to several factors, but somehow a slot machine is decided by the RNG. By your theory the player decides the outcome on slots. The RNG doesn't stop itself. It's only stopped by the "player" and therefore by your theory that would mean the player decided the outcome because they "created" the result by stopping the RNG.