what is long term video poker play?

Arci, if you respond to this thread you're just a glutton for punishment.

Dan

Long term means playing long enough to realize you can't make a living off it but you can make a living telling others they can by selling them books, software, strategy cards etc. Which they could get for free at sites like VPgenius and Wizard of odds.

How many posts at LVA does it take until one tires of demonstrating that he abhors any rational approach to gambling? 4414?

Think of all the Royals he could have / would have had if he did not spend so much time on LVA.


"Long term play", to me, is currently defined as "about 2 hours", and determined solely by my bladder.

Marcus what point are you trying to make? I simply asked that if there are 19 trillion different combinations of cards if that represents long term play and arcimedes pointed out that in fact you might have to play more than 19 trillion hands and arc said it could be an infinite number of hands. Thank you arc.

Dan, Arc correctly pointed out that in the course of long term play that hands can be repeated. Hency you might have to play more than the figure of 19 trillion hands to see all the possible hands.

roadtrip: if you played VP as much as you talk about the expert way of playing VP, you might have more than a single W2G.

Why does money care about "long term" play? It's a meaningless term. It's only meant to signify that it will take more than a few hands to start getting close to the theoretical return of a game. However, we all get closer and closer every time we play.

Alanleroy already provided everything you need to understand. I followed that up with a method of computing a particular certainty (84%). Otherwise there is no such thing as a long term number of hands. There is only an increasing certainty of closing in on the ER.

Here's something to consider. Assume you got to within .01% of expectation after a quick 19 trillion hands. What does that .01% represent? For a dollar play that would be $5 a hand or a total of $95 dollars gambled. Missing the expectation by .01% would cost you $9.5 billion dollars. However, look how close to expectation it is.

I'm afraid money keeps looking for a definitive answer where there is none. It's like asking a weatherman to guarantee it will or won't rain in 3 weeks. Except for a few deserts there's no real way of knowing. Same for VP.

LOL Dan!

You are so right...but the sad thing is that ArC will in fact respond, again, and again, and again!!

Money likes making a boob out of him with these silly questions, cause he knows Arc just can't stay away.

heh heh

--Rizzo

How is that 19 trillion number calculated? Every possible deal times every possible draw from the best hold from every deal?