What is protocol for hand pay?

On a VP win of 1000 or more, I tip 20 dollars. We play mostly at MSS and those attendants are quick in giving the scratch card or refilling those coin machines. The scratch cards alone pays for the tip. I also tip 20 dollars at other casinos.

If I hit a jackpot of $2000, like I did just about an hour ago hitting 4 Aces on a $5 Bonus Poker machine, I give twenty dollars to whoever shows up at the machine to count out the money. If I hit a progressive, everybody gets happy as I give them $100 each to whoever counts it out and supervises the count, and then give two bartenders, and then I give $20 each to a couple of cocktail watresses who I like. If they aren't on shift, I don't give out another penny.

For someone who "works" in the casino by playing VP or whatever as their day job, or even as a secondary source of income, they get cash "deliveries" by the casino personal. They may get several deliveries per day. What business would regularly tip their delivery person, per package, and especially tip them a percentage of the value of the contents of the package that they are delivering?

Since the casino workers are delivering back the cash that the player put into the machine (plus hopefully a little extra), the player would be tipping out a percentage of their own bankroll. It's like a business building a widget, shipping it out to be painted, and then giving the delivery guy 5% of the value of the painted widget when you get it back. If you have a 10% margin on your widget sales, half your profit just went to the delivery guy.

Why would the AP tip excessively when it takes away a big percentage of their earnings?
Someone on vacation or in the casino for fun should be tipping everyone they pass. Repeatedly.

It is a sad day, my video poker hero isn't as great as I thought. Bummer!!!

Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode when Jerry found out his tennis pro couldn't play tennis very well.

Kaypea, no one said tip "excessively" or tip a big percentage of their earnings. Im talking about ZERO tips. And there are these players who tip zero and they do that and claim to be APers.

Do you also defend the professional poker players who refuse to give tips at the tourneys? I hope they all bubble for the rest of their careers.

Some people are just cheap and don't tip.

Some casinos will trigger hand pays for jackpots that don't require taxes, maybe to encourage more tips? I once got a hand pay for $50.

So what is a reasonable tip for someone making a delivery to your machine? Like the UPS guy, should it matter the value of what they are delivering? Should you tip differently for a soda vs beer vs cocktail?

kaypea wrote:

1. "Some people are just cheap and don't tip."

Cheap is a good way to describe them.

2. "Some casinos will trigger hand pays for jackpots that don't require taxes, maybe to encourage more tips? I once got a hand pay for $50."

Indeed some casinos make handpays that do not require a W2G and in those cases I question the necessity of the tip. Slapinfunk got several handpays at Rincon when he hit non-W2G progressives at the 25-cents DDB machines for quad aces, etc and he got handpays without a W2G. He also hit a $1,000 royal in Vegas that required a handpay. He tipped. Good boy, slapinfunk.

3. "So what is a reasonable tip for someone making a delivery to your machine? Like the UPS guy, should it matter the value of what they are delivering? Should you tip differently for a soda vs beer vs cocktail?"

And that is a good point of discussion. What is reasonable? The answer is the tip -- whether made each time or at the end of a session should be reasonable. No need to be excessive. A player at a $100/coin VP machine would likely tip at the end of his session instead of every time he gets a $1500 payoff for three of a kind.

And for the cocktail waitress, yes I tip differently depending on what I order. $1 for a bottle of water, and more for a cocktail.

As I have said many times:
I am a generous tipper with everyone except the hand pay people.
I tip nothing. The only reason for a hand pay is for the government to get their undeserved cut. These people are doing nothing for me. If the IRS wants to tip than fine with me.

Could one assume KayPea drives a big brown truck with a gold stripe?

OK, I'm an idiot. What's the "CW" abbreviation in this thread stand for?