when pocket aces lose, and lose, and lose.

Oh, I get it now. Since I have a million dollars in the bank, I should play loose, make loose calls, and play like a bozo. OK. From now on, when another player raises 10x the BB pre flop, Im going to call with 7-2 off because I have the bankroll in my bank account. Yep, that's really good strategy. Thats the ticket. Winner Winner Winner !!!!

Geez.
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Oh, I get it now. Since I have a million dollars in the bank, I should play loose, make loose calls, and play like a bozo. OK. From now on, when another player raises 10x the BB pre flop, Im going to call with 7-2 off because I have the bankroll in my bank account. Yep, that's really good strategy. Thats the ticket. Winner Winner Winner !!!!

Geez.


Since you claim to have a million dollars in the bank, and are a recognized "celebrity", may I suggest you spend some of your money to upgrade your wardrobe. At least than you'll have something stylish to show for all your hard work while you continue to donate your money into the casino VP machines, and to other poker players.

What is the difference between playing poker like a "bozo", and playing short pay video poker? And, how do you recognize a "bozo" when you admit to not understanding "advantage", odds, or gaming math?

IF you never, ever "make a play" with a hand like 7-2off, if you never try to win a pot with 9-2off, or any other "bad" 2 card starting hand, you are not playing successful poker. And judging from your many messages authored by you, I sincerely doubt you ever will have a winning year, or be a successful "gambler" without incredible luck and winning a major lottery jackpot.

I recommend you:
Save your money. Quit gambling. Give you son an inheritance now instead of gambling it away. Take up golf, buy a boat and go fishing, get a life outside the casino, become a volunteer in an organization where your knowledge and skills may benefit others. Find something rewarding and fulfilling to do instead.

Just for you





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Originally posted by: MoneyLA You see, when you make a bet of $100 and you have $300 behind, it doesnt matter if you have $200-thou in your bank account at Chase. the only thing that matters to the other players is that you have made a bet of $100 and you have another $300 behind.

Geez.
Actually, it does matter. They will play differently if they know you have $3,000 in your wallet. Maybe not much, but definitely enough to make a difference in the way everyone plays.

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Originally posted by: MoneyLA Question: so what do you do, cry about it or realize that luck is a major factor in poker, and someone had better luck than you and rivered you with a club? and would you pull your hair out if the winner of the pot had 6-7 of clubs and rivered the flush? it happens all the time, charlie.
Uh, no. First you realize there is no such thing as luck, except in the mind of a loser (and that's the only place it ever is a major factor). Then you realize this is a good game, with plenty of dead money, so you rebuy. Unless you have no bankroll, and then you miss an opportunity, and then you ARE a loser.



Roadtrip, most of what you said was pretty accurate, however I object to you invoking the "according to the math" phrase (re buy-in should be about 2% of your bankroll) when the math says no such thing. Money management in VP is a science in poker it is an art. In an extreme situation( a table full of very weak, very passive calling stations) a very good player has an almost gauranteed win.In that situation it would certainly warrant risking more, maybe much more, than 2% (or mrmarcus' 1/4 %) of your bankroll. That being said, for the average winning player with other sources of income that 2% sounds fine to me.

mrmarcus, youve got to be kidding me when you wrote "Actually, it does matter. They will play differently if they know you have $3,000 in your wallet." you are out of your mind.
Well, there are very few things you actually do understand about gambling.

A man with $3,000 in his wallet is much more likely to make a big bluff, or a tough call, than a man with $5 in his wallet. That's apparent to anyone with gambling sense.
Marcus: But the guy with only $5 in his wallet and with AA in his hand is going to call the big bluff. The money in the bank does not win at the poker table.

Roadtrip: if you only knew.
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Originally posted by: oobiedoobie
Roadtrip, most of what you said was pretty accurate, however I object to you invoking the "according to the math" phrase (re buy-in should be about 2% of your bankroll) when the math says no such thing. Money management in VP is a science in poker it is an art. In an extreme situation( a table full of very weak, very passive calling stations) a very good player has an almost gauranteed win.In that situation it would certainly warrant risking more, maybe much more, than 2% (or mrmarcus' 1/4 %) of your bankroll. That being said, for the average winning player with other sources of income that 2% sounds fine to me.


Oobie, let me clarify my "2%" statement.

I did not mean that if that 2% is lost, the player should quit the game.

If his bankroll (toolbox) has $100K, and he sits and buys $2K and gets felted, he has $98K left in his toolbox. The next buy in should be $1960, not 2K if that player "rules" are 2%. I've seen the 2% figure used and talked about for many years.

That does not make 2% right, or wrong. I think it may be high, and 1% a better option to avoid ROR. To each their own. But whatever "rules" a player has in place should be inviolate when it comes to the bankroll toolbox.

My rule is basically "Limit Poker only, 100 BB". I do not remember the last time I came close to violating it. Of course, I do, on "rare" occasions, play No Limit. Same "rules". 100 BB maximum risk. In Limit, I usually buy in for 30-40 BB max. In No Limit, I'll buy 50 BB max. And of course, am prepared to rebuy in either game if I deem it a worthwhile "investment". I will, however, usually have the equivalent of 300 BB in my pocket when I go play. And a couple ATM cards. And a blank personal check. And I have a safe deposit box at the casino where I play most of my poker, so don't need to carry too much cash with me.

And in your example, you would possibly need a crowbar to pry me from the table.

But, if I did lose several buy ins, I'd also probably pack it up for the day, and go talk to myself for hours. LOL

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Roadtrip: if you only knew.


Actually, I'm pretty certain I do know.

I am definitely , 100% positive I just don't care.

"Frankly Scarlett, I don't give a damn", and having quoted, or misquoted, that famous line, I'm out of this thread. For now.



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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Marcus: But the guy with only $5 in his wallet and with AA in his hand is going to call the big bluff. The money in the bank does not win at the poker table.
Neither the man with $5 off the table, nor the man with $3,000 off the table, KNOW whether it's a big bluff. The man with $5 may call, but the man with $3,000 will call MORE OFTEN. This affects the outcome of the game.

You seem to be a person who 1) LIKES LOSING (possibly you're addicted to losing?), and 2) likes to demonstrate to others how VERY VERY LITTLE he knows, about anything.

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