Where to pee?

Let me see if I understand Clark correctly. If one is transgender, this person should legally be able to choose either bathroom. If one is not "transgender", then that person is legally limited to only one of the two. I recall a male friend visiting a women's restrooms instead of waiting in line for a men's room, and subsequently being threatened with jail time. Shouldn't my friend have equal rights...........living without any bathroom limitations?

I generally find that such things are about small special interest groups demanding "special rights". Either way, Boiler won't lose any sleep over it.


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So you're saying transgendered folks don't want to identify as gay


Transgendered people are people who were born with physical characteristics of the opposite sex as what they feel they are. Transgenedered people can be gay, or straight, or bisexual. Just like non transgendered people.

They are a part of the LGBT community because this is a group that is targeted for hate by homophobics and there is a kinship there. There is a lot of misconception about sexuality out there.

Let's say a college has ten different sports teams. Nine of them are champion teams, but just the football team is the second worst football team in America. Do you think the players would feel more comfortable with the members of the champion teams at their own school, or with the players from the worst football team in America?

People bond with people they have things in common with. Sexual discrimination is a big one.


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Let me see if I understand Clark correctly. If one is transgender, this person should legally be able to choose either bathroom. If one is not "transgender", then that person is legally limited to only one of the two. I recall a male friend visiting a women's restrooms instead of waiting in line for a men's room, and subsequently being threatened with jail time. Shouldn't my friend have equal rights...........living without any bathroom limitations?


Transgendered people should be allowed to use whatever restroom they feel comfortable using.

Who threatened your friend with jail time? An obnoxious soccer mom with a duck's butt haircut? Asking because unless this happened in NC in the past week, your friend wasn't doing anything illegal so he would not have really been facing jailtime...with the exception of this law in NC, it is not illegal to use a bathroom designated for another sex. It is however, illegal to rape in every square inch of America. But somehow, people are suddenly over concerned only about rest rooms.
I remember a basement bar I frequented in College. The guys bathroom had a long "trough" for stand up urinating. So we were in and out pretty quick. There was also a couple of stalls. I know that on busy nights the girls would have to wait a long time to use "their" bathroom. So they would often come into the guys bathroom and say to us standing at the trough, "excuse me guys but I really have to go" as they would head to the stalls. Startled me the first time it happened but never even noticed on subsequent trips they made through with me at the trough.
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Ah chillys back, and with his usual idiotic commentary as usual. Didn't miss a beat.


You are king of the idiots on this board. Read: The first post in this thread, made by you, for example.



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I remember a basement bar I frequented in College. The guys bathroom had a long "trough" for stand up urinating. So we were in and out pretty quick. There was also a couple of stalls. I know that on busy nights the girls would have to wait a long time to use "their" bathroom. So they would often come into the guys bathroom and say to us standing at the trough, "excuse me guys but I really have to go" as they would head to the stalls. Startled me the first time it happened but never even noticed on subsequent trips they made through with me at the trough.


I've seen women in the men's room at a lot of sporting events, due to the long lines for the women's room. Or MAYBE, they are just gay men dressing up as women to use the men's room to stare at your penises. Wait, that makes no sense. Kind of like how a man getting gender reassigment surgery just to look at a door of a stall that a woman is peeing behind, completely shielded, makes no sense.

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Originally posted by: clarkvegas
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Originally posted by: ecomstoc
I remember a basement bar I frequented in College. The guys bathroom had a long "trough" for stand up urinating. So we were in and out pretty quick. There was also a couple of stalls. I know that on busy nights the girls would have to wait a long time to use "their" bathroom. So they would often come into the guys bathroom and say to us standing at the trough, "excuse me guys but I really have to go" as they would head to the stalls. Startled me the first time it happened but never even noticed on subsequent trips they made through with me at the trough.


I've seen women in the men's room at a lot of sporting events, due to the long lines for the women's room. Or MAYBE, they are just gay men dressing up as women to use the men's room to stare at your penises. Wait, that makes no sense. Kind of like how a man getting gender reassigment surgery just to look at a door of a stall that a woman is peeing behind, completely shielded, makes no sense.



Unless said perv is armed with xray glasses that are easily obtained through any old comic book.
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Ah chillys back, and with his usual idiotic commentary as usual. Didn't miss a beat.


I think you are correct. Same writing style, same anger, and same insults. The transgender thing explains a lot. When I used to use the terms "he, she, or it", I was actually spot on.

Before he/she/it goes off on me, I have a trust I manage, where the beneficiary is a cross dresser and is now claiming he is a transgender.

I wish that Clark would explain his view of the law to the police officers in Pensacola Beach.


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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Let me see if I understand Clark correctly. If one is transgender, this person should legally be able to choose either bathroom. If one is not "transgender", then that person is legally limited to only one of the two. I recall a male friend visiting a women's restrooms instead of waiting in line for a men's room, and subsequently being threatened with jail time. Shouldn't my friend have equal rights...........living without any bathroom limitations?


Transgendered people should be allowed to use whatever restroom they feel comfortable using.

Who threatened your friend with jail time? An obnoxious soccer mom with a duck's butt haircut? Asking because unless this happened in NC in the past week, your friend wasn't doing anything illegal so he would not have really been facing jailtime...with the exception of this law in NC, it is not illegal to use a bathroom designated for another sex. It is however, illegal to rape in every square inch of America. But somehow, people are suddenly over concerned only about rest rooms.


Again, let me make certain that I correctly understand Clark's argument. A transgender person's comfort is of importance, and the comfort of non-transgender person is unimportant.

Is this correct?


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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Let me see if I understand Clark correctly. If one is transgender, this person should legally be able to choose either bathroom. If one is not "transgender", then that person is legally limited to only one of the two. I recall a male friend visiting a women's restrooms instead of waiting in line for a men's room, and subsequently being threatened with jail time. Shouldn't my friend have equal rights...........living without any bathroom limitations?


Transgendered people should be allowed to use whatever restroom they feel comfortable using.

Who threatened your friend with jail time? An obnoxious soccer mom with a duck's butt haircut? Asking because unless this happened in NC in the past week, your friend wasn't doing anything illegal so he would not have really been facing jailtime...with the exception of this law in NC, it is not illegal to use a bathroom designated for another sex. It is however, illegal to rape in every square inch of America. But somehow, people are suddenly over concerned only about rest rooms.


Trans-gendered folk are already protected in their bathroom choices by Federal law, which over-rides state law. The good people in North Carolina know that, but its an election year and since the whole "gay marriage"thing is off the table, they need a new boogie man to scare people into voting for them.
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