While Obama sleeps

Jill has yet to learn that George Bush is no longer in office?


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Originally posted by: jillyf
"alas, while the Bush people applied the Powell Doctrine in the Midwest, they applied the Rumsfeld Doctrine in the Middle East. And the Rumsfeld Doctrine is: "Just enough troops to lose." Donald Rumsfeld tried to prove that a small, mobile army was all that was needed to topple Saddam, without realizing that such a limited force could never stabilize Iraq. He never thought it would have to. He thought his Iraqi pals would do it. He was wrong.

For all of President Bush's vaunted talk about being consistent and resolute, the fact is he never established U.S. authority in Iraq. Never. This has been the source of all our troubles. We have never controlled all the borders, we have never even consistently controlled the road from Baghdad airport into town, because we never had enough troops to do it."




By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Published: October 3, 2004


"Secretary of State John Kerry warned his Russian counterpart on Saturday that steps by the Kremlin to annex Crimea would 'close any available space for diplomacy,' a State Department official said."
Ref: New York Times

Does this mean Secretary Kerry will stop speaking? Or what?

There were no reports of President Putin shaking in his boots.


DonDiego suggests the two Presidents settle the matter with a one-on-one basketball competition.
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Jill has yet to learn that George Bush is no longer in office?


Yes, I hadn't noticed the last two elections. Especially the last one, featuring a Mormon Bishop, who believes he'll get to be a God of his very own planet in the afterlife.

Thanks for pointing out that the inbred idiot is no longer President. But I guess if a guy is white, being stupid ain't so bad? And I guess if a guy is white, he'd be quicker to come to the aid of the neo-nazi skinhead party in Ukraine.
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Originally posted by: jillyf
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Jill has yet to learn that George Bush is no longer in office?


Yes, I hadn't noticed the last two elections. Especially the last one, featuring a Mormon Bishop, who believes he'll get to be a God of his very own planet in the afterlife.

Amazing that you are privy to anyone's personal religious beliefs.

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Originally posted by: jillyf Thanks for pointing out that the inbred idiot is no longer President. But I guess if a guy is white, being stupid ain't so bad? And I guess if a guy is white, he'd be quicker to come to the aid of the neo-nazi skinhead party in Ukraine.

You must be referring to the one (Kerry) who wanted to be President. He be all in Putin's face now!


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Originally posted by: hoops2
In the middle of an intl crisis Obama skips off to Florida to play golf.





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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: hoops2
In the middle of an intl crisis Obama skips off to Florida to play golf.





Isn't it cute when Democrats hold up George Bush as an example of presidential competence?

Putin wiped his ass with 2-ply toilet paper...it must be because he thinks Obama is weak.

Oh Boy! The Rumsfeld crowd found themselves a new set of cue cards to run on Faux News on a five minute loop. In fact, Rumsfeld himself was all over Faux News this past week with that exact narrative. Its good red meat for the people who cheered his WMD hunt in Iraq.

For everyone else its comedy.
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
Isn't it cute when Democrats hold up George Bush as an example of presidential competence?


More like an example of our resident conservatives' hypocrisy. I never gave hell to GWB for Georgia...and neither did Don Diego or Hoops.

But if you think either president's reaction to Georgia/Ukraine was incompetant perhaps you can explain to us what the competent response would be.
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
Isn't it cute when Democrats hold up George Bush as an example of presidential competence?


More like an example of our resident conservatives' hypocrisy. I never gave hell to GWB for Georgia...and neither did Don Diego or Hoops.

But if you think either president's reaction to Georgia/Ukraine was incompetant perhaps you can explain to us what the competent response would be.

Sure, MANY times when Obama does something the Republicans don't like, the Democrats point to George Bush having done the same. Yes indeed it may point out hypocrisy on the part of Republicans. But the ultimate hypocrisy is that it is George Bush you're holding up there...George Bush who Democrats consistently attacked as one of the worst presidents in history....and they may be right. Obama following Bush's examples doesn't make any points with me..it makes me think we got two incompetent presidents in a row. Apparently it's good for you though.

Now as to a 'competent response'. First off, let's put this constant presidential holiday and vacation shit to bed. If I were President, I wouldn't take a vacation. Period. I'd just roll up my sleeves and work every day. Maybe take a couple of 3 day weekends in my second term....but If he's not willing or can't handle that for 4 years, maybe he's not the right guy. I worked many years just like this and so do a lot of other Americans. Why can't our leader show a little more dedication? It's not like we've solved all our problems and there's nothing to do but play golf.

Now please PJ go ahead and show us how many vacations George Bush took. I'm sure we'll all feel better then.

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
Isn't it cute when Democrats hold up George Bush as an example of presidential competence?


More like an example of our resident conservatives' hypocrisy. I never gave hell to GWB for Georgia...and neither did Don Diego or Hoops.

But if you think either president's reaction to Georgia/Ukraine was incompetant perhaps you can explain to us what the competent response would be.

Sure, MANY times when Obama does something the Republicans don't like, the Democrats point to George Bush having done the same. Yes indeed it may point out hypocrisy on the part of Republicans. But the ultimate hypocrisy is that it is George Bush you're holding up there...
Maybe it's President George W. Bush because he is the only Republican president since the internet era began. If I could have found a picture of Reagan playing tetherball during the Lebanon crisis, I would have preferred it, but alas, Google has its limitations.

And I'm cool with reasonable time off for ALL of the above presidents. Any manager who thinks he can remain effective without any time off is probably delusional and ineffectual. And in denial.
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