Why do smart people play craps?

Only smart people play craps?????
From my experience its been only the obnoxious drunk annoying ones. 8)
Only smart people play craps?????
From my experience its been only the obnoxious drunk annoying ones. 8)
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
By the way Kay Pea, how do you know so much when you say you don't play?


I never said that I don't play. I think you misunderstood something back in the thread of how do you explain the lure of Vegas and gambling to people who don't gamble or go to casinos.

But to answer the question - it's about the entertainment cost. Playing craps is one of the best deals in the casino. Given enough bankroll to survive the variance, and resisting the temptation of the sucker bets, craps is a very high energy and exciting game that you can play for hours with a relatively low per hour cost.
Kaypea wrote: "craps is a very high energy and exciting game that you can play for hours with a relatively low per hour cost." And this is very true which is why it is difficult for craps players to attain the same comps/scores/ranks of other game players.

And at the Harrahs/Caesars casinos its even harder because craps players are rated based on the bets they make. If you are a conservative bettor and play low HA bets like pass/DP, come/dont, place 6,8 your rating will be very low. Playing the outside numbers and hardways will help your rating a little. playing the horn and field will help your rating the most.

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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
it is difficult for craps players to attain the same comps/scores/ranks of other game players.


If you think craps gives you low ratings, you don't want to see the ratings given to Pai-Gow players.
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Originally posted by: KayPea
I have a craps system that will make you a winner. It involves a few special plays plus some inside information I have on the randomness of the dice used by casinos. I also know how to pick a hot table. One key to my system is that you should start doubling your bets if you are losing. You will win 80%-85% of your sessions using my system.


Wow, you should write a book! Wait, what am I saying? This is the information age.....a website and streaming videos will work much better. LOL

Dan

Because craps is the funnestest game of all time!
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Originally posted by: fedomalley

Wow, you should write a book! Wait, what am I saying? This is the information age.....a website and streaming videos will work much better. LOL

Dan


Are you kidding? I'm in the casino 15 hours a day earning buckets of money with my system. Only a loser would have time (or need) to write books or make videos.


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Originally posted by: billryan
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Smart people realize they cant beat any game in the casino so they just play the ones with the best odds...

Dumb people are the ones who watch the Vegas documentaries on TV about people who have beat the casino and think they can too. For every smart person that can actually beat the casino there are 1000 dumb people who think they are that smart...but aren't. (I'm smart enough to know I'm too dumb to beat the house. )


I don't think dumb or smart has as much to do with not being willing to dedicate the time needed to beat the house. Few people are willing to take the time to learn much more than basdic strategy in BJ, let alone the some 200 indices that exist. Its a matter of putting in time. Few people are dedicated enough to only go to casino X on 10X points days, and casino Y when its their multiple points day.
The ones who put in the work generally succeed. The ones who don't like to think it can't be done.


I can teach a pretty good basic strategy in one long sentence but people throw thousands away on horrid plays anyway.
The sentence?
Hit stiff hands against dealer's 7 and up or 2/3 against 12, hit through soft 17-soft 18 against 9,10, ace, double down 11 against 10 -10 2-9 -9 2-6, soft 13-18 against 4 5 and 6, always split aces and 8's-never slit 4, 5 or 10, double the rest against 2-6.
This gets you about 99% of the way there. Misses a couple of finer points like splitting 9's against 8, etc. but if people played that simple sentence and stuck to decent games (no 6-5, no Hit 17 4 deckers and up) the casinos would be pulling their hair out.
Of course I STILL get astonished looks from otherwise perfect players at the El Cortez when I double an 8 against a 5 or 6 at the single decker.
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