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Originally posted by: mrmarcus12LVAQuote
Originally posted by: dig_dougpt Pulling out and sitting in the intersection is one of the most broken rules.. You are blocking the intersection...
You aren't blocking it if the light is green for you. Only if you fail to get through before the light is red.
If you wait behind the limit line when turning left on a green light against oncoming traffic, you are actually more of a hazard to pull out when the light turns red and you pull in front of cross traffic cars that have started to cross the intersection that just got a green light. I've paid particular attention to this since I wrote about it and have observed cops pulling out part way into the intersection.
The other issue in Pasadena California is there used to be a red light camera near Cal-Tech. They finally took it down because 99% of the pictures were people who were legally pulled into the intersection and allowed to finish their turn, even though the light just turned red.