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Question of the Day - 09 December 2008

Q:
I was watching an original "Twilight Zone" the other day and a guy anwered someone by saying, "No dice." What does this mean and where did it come from?
A:

"No dice" is a phrase that's believed to have originated in the United States in the early 20th century. Since gambling with dice was illegal in most states, crapshooters went to great lengths to hide and/or dispose of the bad bones when the law showed up (there were reports of gamblers actually swallowing the dice to avoid arrest). Prosecutors and judges had to throw out illegal-gambling charges when there were "no dice" (evidence).

According to phrases.org, the earliest known reference to the term was printed in the Port Arthur [Texas] Daily News in April 1921: "It's 'no dice' when the bones can't be found, according to a local court decision. Six white men were arrested Tuesday by Officer W. D. Moore and charged with gaming with dice." At the trial, the men were acquitted due to the lack of evidence. So "no dice" meant no conviction.

Somewhere along the line, like many gambling terms, "no dice" insinuated itself into the general slang, to mean "an unacceptable alternative," or "an unfavorable result," or "a refusal to accept a proposition" -- in short, "nothing doing."

Update 09 December 2008
Thanks to the reader who wrote in with the following: "Regarding the 'no dice' answer, I never heard that particular explanation, but I do recall often at the legal crap tables in Vegas having either the stickman or the boxman yelling 'No dice' if either a roll resulted in one of the dice leaving the table or ending up tilted on a chip. I also recall a shout of 'No dice' if the roll is too short and doesn't reach the rnd of the table."
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