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Question of the Day - 09 February 2024

Q:

Here's a question that's probably specific to me, in other words, that you haven't seen before. I love to play craps. I'm moving to Las Vegas where my wife is being transferred (I'm retired). If I go to dealer school and learn to be a craps dealer, would that help me be a better craps player? I wouldn't want to deal the game, so attending the school would be just for edification. 

A:

Being a "better crap player" is a pretty fluid concept.

If you mean would you understand the game better, absolutely. Does that translate into being a “better” player? Let’s take a look.

First things first. Craps is a wholly negative-expectation game. Though some bets have a very low house advantage, there’s no way (other than dice control or cheating) to overcome with any strategy the edge against the player. Thus, over time, all crap players are losers. As legendary gambler Nick “the Greek” Dandolos used to say, “The best long-term attack at craps I know of is to play the don’t-pass line and lay the odds. Using that system, I’ve lost millions of dollars.” And as Peter Griffin, author of the blackjack bible Theory of Blackjack, used to say, “An expert crap player is akin to an expert cigarette smoker.”

Now, as far as the short term and entertainment are concerned, even if you spend the money on attending dealer school and learn not only the ins and outs of the game, but the technical skills to deal it, you still need the discipline not to throw your money on the really bad bets. You can go to school and become the best crap dealer in Vegas, but if you can't resist the urge to put $100 on the field and make a $10 hard-10 hop bet, knowing how to pay off complicated wagers quickly and accurately won’t do you much good.

A few things often happen to crap dealers -- or any dealers for that matter -- when they play the game. One, they forget everything they know about craps when they belly up to the table and end up playing like any other gambler. Two, they know the game so well that they devise their own "foolproof strategy" to beat the game.

One dice crew we knew of designed the "perfect betting strategy." Everyone pitched in for a buy-in of $5,000, then spread it over many different bets, some bets hedging others. With all the bets they put out, the only roll that would break them was a 10. If any other number rolled, they'd make something like $1,000.

Of course, 10s roll all the time.

Needless to say, things didn't go according to plan.

So you can see that being a dealer doesn't necessarily translate into playing the game well. It might, on occasion, allow you to identify mistakes in the payouts for winning bets; that would definitely be a plus. But If you want to understand craps better, you can peruse a plethora of websites and books out there that’ll give you good solid information about how to lose less.

 

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  • Dave Feb-09-2024
    Probably not
    I had to go to dealer school 10 years ago before getting a job at Barona for three years. People ask me all the time, "are you so good at blackjack because of going to school for and becoming a dealer"? and I tell them no, I already knew basic strategy, I already used a progressive betting system, etc. If anything, it only strengthened my resolve that I was doing things right, since I saw so many people doing things wrong and getting waxed night in, night out. 

  • Raymond Ray Feb-09-2024
    Craps dealers better craps players....
    NO! Sometimes we are even worse players. We think we "KNOW EVERYTHING". We think we can out smart the dice. IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. (17year craps dealer)

  • Reno Faoro Feb-09-2024
    discipline - enjoyment 
    entertainment  - always costs $$$. enjoy . like the stock market - its a 'crap shoot '!!buy hi = sell low  or vice versa . personally , i look at the players chip rack. FOLLOW THE LEADER ??BET LIKE THE WINNER  DOES ?? IF RACKS ARE 'SPARSE '- FIND ANOTHER TABLE . LEAVE WHEN YOU ARE AHEAD -IF THAT HAPPENS . GO TO THE YELLING !!!! 

  • Kevin Lewis Feb-09-2024
    Uh uh
    Learning to deal craps makes you a better player the same way that learning to drive an ambulance might make you live a healthier life. Actually, it just might do that. Never mind. Bad analogy. I need more coffee.

  • Randall Ward Feb-09-2024
    yes
    why not? non smoking, no drinking entertainment, and pretending you're doing it's to get a job will hone your acting skills.  Probably cheaper than playing craps that many hours.  

  • Jon Anderson Feb-09-2024
    craps education tip
    i say go to acting school and learn how to "be the dice"...then bet accordingly to how you feel at any given moment...can't lose...

  • King of the Bovines Feb-09-2024
    Guaranteed employment
    I don't know a single unemployed dice dealer - assuming they're hireable.

  • Raymond Feb-10-2024
    At my local casino...
    ...one of the craps dealers told me that the way she makes money at craps is twofold--one, what she gets paid to be on her side of the table; and two, the time she spends working is time she doesn't spend playing the game.
    
    That said, she recently told me that my way of playing is less bad than almost all she's seen.  I'm not sure if that's a compliment.