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Question of the Day - 15 September 2020

Q:

How effective is card counting in blackjack tournaments? Do you have to know how to count to beat counters? Or is it more about tournament strategy and bet sizing?  

A:

In general, card counting isn't particularly effective in blackjack tournaments, because the duration of play is too short for a counter to get much of an edge. In the early days, many card counters entered tournaments thinking that they had a big advantage over non-counters, but they were wrong.

In his book Play to Win—A World Champion’s Guide to Winning Blackjack Tournaments, Ken Einiger writes:

"Card counting isn’t important in blackjack tournaments. I’ve heard many beginners reason that they can’t be competitive, because they don’t count cards and other competitors do. Nonsense. This game is about betting and position. The duration of each round is too short for card counting to have an appreciable effect."

According to Anthony Curtis, he couldn’t be more right. The following is an excerpt from an article Anthony wrote for the newsletter Blackjack Forum:

"I always rub my hands together when I run into card counters on a tournament table. Why? Because they're so predictable. A powerful play in tournament competition is to create the opportunity for a swing when you're behind. That usually means betting big when your opponents bet small (or vice versa). This can be problematic when the key opponent bets after you, because he can simply mirror your bets to the degree that he chooses. Since some card counters would rather be publicly caned than raise their bets into a negative deck, you can create the potential swing any time you want just by betting contrary to the count.

"The most remarkable example of this I've come across occurred in a big tournament in the Bahamas. I was on a table of five and all of my opponents were dyed-in-the-wool card counters. A third of the way through the round, the shoe went positive and the four others jumped on it. Having already drifted a few maximum bets down, I was happy to let them go, hoping that a few good hands by the dealer would bring them back down to me. But by the time the shoe was finished, I was too. The four were in a dead heat for the lead some eight max bets ahead. Given the one-person-advance format, I was all but sunk.

"The next shoe, however, quickly went negative. I made a max bet, while everyone else bet the minimum. I won and gained a bet. As we played on, I didn't even worry about what I was dealt. I was busy praying that the count would stay negative, so I would continue to be the sole big bettor. It did, I was, and on the last hand I had only to win my bet to advance to the four-man final for $250,000 (alas, my remarkable comeback wasn't consummated).

"After the round, one of the players who knew me as a card counter came up and asked: ‘Nice comeback, but why were you betting so heavily into that huge negative count?’"

Anthony went on to make some of the same points made by Ken Einiger — namely, that there are too many more important considerations in tournament play to waste effort and attention on counting cards. This is particularly true in the last 5 to 10 hands, when the only counting you should be doing is of the amount of chips in your opponents’ stacks.

 

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  • Dave Sep-15-2020
    Tournaments are a whole different thing
    Normally, it’s you against the house. 
    
    In a tourney, it’s you against the other players. 
    
    As a result, it uses a whole different strategy. In a tourney, with its small / finite number of hands, splitting tens is often the correct strategy. That said, it should be easy to see how the count becomes far less important. 

  • Randall Ward Sep-15-2020
    tournaments 
    been awhile but agreed, it's about the other players 

  • jay Sep-15-2020
    combo
    I agree that you are trying to best the other players but unless your significantly behind and acting in desperation why go heavy against a negative shoe and wish for luck. It would seem to me that the edge would be to get the anchor position and be the last to bet. It also sounds more logical that you combine strategies and count and manage your bets, subsequently you might not bet table min on a negative shoe but your not Pi**ing money away either. 

  • Dave in Seattle. Sep-15-2020
    Card counting?
    WORTHLESS! The best strategy is closely watching the other players bets and their total stack $$. The only reason that I won my tournament is because I was one of the last players to bet. You may ask for a count of the other players stack-do that often.

  • gaattc2001 Sep-15-2020
    I agree that your time in a tournament is better spent...
    keeping track of the other players' chip stacks, positions, etc. than counting cards. Card-counting is a long-term strategy, and very little use in a tournament round of only 20 or 30 hands.
    Once at a tournament in Laughlin I was way behind on the next-to-last hand and wound up splitting deuces three times against the dealer's seven or eight (IIRC). If the deuces hadn't kept coming, I would probably have doubled down as much as possible. No card-counting system would call for a play like that--but I made it into the money.
    We don't play much non-tournament Blackjack any more. Six-to-five has ruined it. Counting isn't very effective there, either.
    Cheers.

  • IdahoPat Sep-15-2020
    Jay ...
    Getting the dealer button is a rotational exercise that benefits everyone equally in a tournament. There's no such thing as being able to permanently play third base in a tournament.
    
    Anthony described it best -- card-counting has no place in tournament play, and you can use knowledge of your oppenents' playing patterns to use card-counting against them. He's the expert. Why are you debating him?