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Question of the Day - 15 November 2019

Q:

I love to play Solitaire on my cell phone, especially the traditional type where you arrange the suits from ace to king. When I learned the game from an uncle, he told me that "Vegas rules" were where you paid $50 to play and won $5 for every card you moved from the stack to the suits. Do any Vegas casinos offer Solitaire now? Or did they ever? "Vegas rules" had to come from somewhere, right? 

A:

We ran the answer to a similar question five years ago and the answer then, as now, is no casino that we know of in Vegas or anywhere else for that matter deals Solitaire in any of its myriad forms. 

In response to that question, some LVA readers with long memories wrote in that they clearly remembered having played solitaire in a casino here.

As to solitaire's history in Las Vegas, there was at least one now-defunct casino that did indeed deal it, while we've found comments online from other long-time residents, or regular visitors, who distinctly recall having seen/played solitaire elsewhere in Nevada, including one person who played at Circus Circus in Reno, which apparently dealt a version where the player was paid after the 10th card, while another Vegas local recalled it being dealt in "some of the smaller establishments" around 30 years ago.

With regard to the Las Vegas property that dealt the game, we can now confirm what follows on the strength of accounts from two different people, who both recall having played solitaire at the off-Strip Maxim, located on E. Flamingo. This casino opened in July 1977 and was popular on account of its reputation for customer care and service, but it fell out of favor in the '80s due to competition from newer, flashier properties on the Strip. In 1999, the casino was closed as the result of a dispute between its operator and the hotel owners; the entire property closed in 2001. It's now the Westin; the small casino there closed years ago.

Here's the account we were sent by an LVA reader of his experience playing solitaire at the Maxim 25-30 years ago:

"As I remember, you paid $50 (or $52) for the deck (new and unshuffled). You were allowed to make three shuffles only, then you would deal out your typical solitaire, i.e., seven rows with one card up in the first, 2nd row would be one down, one up, 3rd row two down, one up etc.

"You would then move any aces up to the 'out' position and follow the suits accordingly, as in a regular game of solitaire. Taking the remaining un-dealt cards, you were allowed to flip them up one at a time and ONLY ONCE through the deck, making all the normal moves you could make. You were paid $5 per card for each card you got up into the out position. Obviously, if you went out completely, you would be paid $260.

"Of course, it's VERY difficult to get many cards out when you can only shuffle them three times: You don't get a very good mix generally."

While some people doubted this account, we subsequently found it corroborated by another player, who wrote:

"Yes it was a regular game. You had three chances to finish the game, by finishing the deck and starting over again. 

"The only time I saw it was at the old Maxim about 20 years ago. I remember it clearly because I asked if they had a table that played 'War'! I was kidding, because it just seemed funny to see solitaire being played in a casino."

Some Solitaire apps that play for money and a company called Solitarius was supposed to offer a "Vegas Solitaire" slot machine a few years ago, but we've never seen or heard of one showing up on a casino floor.

You can read up on the history of Las Vegas Solitaire as a gambling game, plus learn about the rules, odds, and strategy and play a free online version, at vegassolitaire.com.

 

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  • gaattc2001 Nov-15-2019
    When I was just a novice Blackjack player...
    in the Reno area in 1968, I heard stories or rumors about casino Solitaire, played pretty much as you describe. I never actually saw it played anywhere, and it's not mentioned in Scarne's encyclopedic "Complete Guide to Gambling" (1960). 
    Sounds like something they tried here and there occasionally, but it never caught on. Maybe it was too slow -paced, or the house edge was unacceptable.

  • Jackie Nov-15-2019
    I remember
    First heard of it in the early 70's but only from one person at a poker table who I took as someone making up a story.  Heard of it in general conversations up to as recent as 2004 but not since then until this QOD.  I once tried to checked it out by going to the casino where it was said to be offered.  It was played in the Bingo room when I inquired but just discontinued due to too many people cheating the game.

  • Deke Castleman Nov-15-2019
    This in via email
    My son played 'War' at the El Cortez  in the wee hours  (3-4 am), but I don't remember Solitaire. That would have been in the 90s and maybe the dealer was just looking for something to keep busy. However, I was told that Solitaire was played in casinos at one time. My grandma loved to play Solitaire.

  • Randall Ward Nov-15-2019
    solitaire
    heard rumors and people who swore they played it and won big, but never saw it or got details of where it was.  It's always Reno that comes up.

  • Dave in Seattle. Nov-15-2019
    Some back room..
    My grandfather used to play in a back room run by a Chinese man in the 80's.Illegal in Seattle.Then and now.

  • Roy Furukawa Nov-15-2019
    I heard of it, but too young to have seen it
    Yes, I heard of it from my good friend's uncle who visited Las Vegas pretty regularly. He said he played it at the Maxim just as described here. I'd say it's no tall tale when more than a few people remember it.

  • Nov-15-2019
    of COURSE only the Maxim
    Because of the name of the game, the Maxim HAD to be the only Vegas casino ever to have offered the game - the solitary casino.  :-)