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Question of the Day - 04 May 2019

Q:

On our last trip to Vegas, we opted for playing electronic roulette for the first time instead of the table game. We noticed (at least on the machines we jumped on) that you could not be rated for play on these machines. Is this the norm for all casinos and/or all electronic table games like roulette and blackjack? If so, what is the rationale since they are similar to slot machines?

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A:

“They don’t want players washing their bets for comp dollars,” responds Chris Wester, products director for electronic table games at Scientific Games.

What he means is, they don’t want you playing $100 on red, while the missus is putting $100 on black, bets that mostly cancel each other out, while racking up points spin after spin.

This is an issue handled by the individual casinos, not at the manufacturing level. “Our games don’t ‘know’ that there’s a player-tracking system installed,” says Wester.

However, the electronic-table-game (ETG) industry has certainly provided the option for player tracking on ETGs. 

“It’s an operator’s choice. They’re afraid of you grinding out points,” echoes another industry source. “I've seen some operators offer different ratios on point earning on ETGs versus slots. I've also seen some operators restrict the redemption of free play on ETGs.”

In other words, it’s totally at the casinos’ discretion. For video blackjack, the "different ratios" the industry source cites above generally means at a lower rate than table play. And bubble crap machines often don't reward club points at all (last we heard, the one at the Cosmo still wasn't after many years in operation). 

So you can look for e-roulette machines that accept players cards and award points. Or if your play is high enough, you can talk over the comp possibilities with a host. 

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  • Kevin Rough May-04-2019
    Doesn't make sense
    In the scenario given, over 5% of the time you're going to hit green since everyone of these games that I've ever seen is double-zero.  The hold percentage in roulette is still higher than even some of the worst video poker games.

  • kinosh May-04-2019
    I don't get it
    The vig on double-zero roulette is 5.26%.  It doesn't matter if you play ($100 red + $100 black) or $200 red only or $200 black only.  It's all the same so why would a live game be different from an ETG?  Playing red AND black guarantees that the player cannot win.  That's a 0% chance of winning.  If I owned a casino, I would welcome that action, and give players comp dollars for it. 

  • May-04-2019
    Most Video Roulette Is Single 0
    Sorry to have to disagree with Kevin Rough, but the clear majority  of video roulette games in Las Vegas (as of the last time I did an inventory around town a few years ago) are SINGLE zero, not double zero.  That, plus the low level of betting allowed, plus not having to reach across a long table, plus not having to constantly watch whether the dealer pays winners correctly, plus not having to deal with inconsiderate players, make the video version way preferable to the physical version of the game.  But the house edge on single-0 roulette is still much higher than on decent video poker, and the video game is faster, so the casino should not shy away from letting video roulette players get perks just like slot/VP players do.