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Question of the Day - 15 April 2018

Q:

With the new tax bill, will I still be able to claim my gambling losses against my wins? 

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Concerning the new tax law, are there any thoughts for us gamblers, VP players who receive numerous W-2Gs? Appears unless you itemize, you can’t deduct your losses from wins and that you would have to take a hit for the income if you don’t itemize. 

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With the tax code changes, will casual gamblers that do not itemize deductions be able to offset winnings with gambling losses? Hope so, or I will have to avoid W-2Gs at all cost.

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Given the recent passage of the tax reform bill, could you please provide some insight on how this will impact the recreational gambler? Most everything I have read focuses on the professional gambler and how expenses are to be included with losses. For the recreational gambler, will Schedule A still include a line item to deduct losses? With the increase in the standard deduction, this could also have an impact on those of us who receive W2-G forms.

A:

Happy Tax Day (hey, at least it doesn't come around again for an entire year). 

Though many of the changes to the new tax law enacted by Congress late last year won’t affect tax liabilities until you file your 2018 return in 2019, all taxpayers are feeling the impact since the new law went into effect on January 1.

As for that impact, according to numerous sources, the piece that concerns gamblers changed only slightly and won’t affect 98% of us. Though disallowing losses against wins was on the negotiating table, it didn’t make the final bill, so that part of it remains the same: You can claim losses against wins, but only if you itemize your deductions.

Two things have changed. First, the standard deduction is much higher. It’s gone up from $6,300 for singles and married filing separately and $12,600 for married filing jointly to $12,000 and $24,000, respectively. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center estimates that the number of itemizers will fall from about 49 million to 10 million as a result; the American Gaming Association estimate is even higher at a 90% drop-off. Both, however, consider it a net gain for most gambler-taxpayers, who either haven’t had to itemize their gambling activity and have remained under the W-2G radar or can now take the standard deduction to come out ahead over itemizing losses against wins.

We align with Jean Scott and Marissa Chien, who write in Tax Help for Gamblers, “Many taxpayers find they need to figure it both ways to see which has the lowest overall tax obligation.”

The second change affects the few taxpayers who meet the IRS’ strict definition of “professional gambler” and file as such. Previously, professionals were allowed to show a net loss if their gambling losses, plus their business expenses related to gambling, were more than their winnings. However, under the new law, pro gamblers are no longer allowed to claim a net loss for the year; winnings minus losses and expenses can only zero out. (This limitation expires after 2025, unless Congress extends it between now and then.)

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  • Jeffrey Small Apr-15-2018
    JRS
    Perhaps you should add a follow-up regarding W2Gs.  Fewer will be issued with the change in the IRS regulations.  For example, at racetracks the total cost of the bet now determines whether a W2G will be issued.  The old threshold was 300-1 (or a $ 602 win) would cause a W2G to be issued.  Now a W2G is only issued if the total cost of the bet exceeds 300-1, so a $12 trifecta box would only cause a W2G to issue if the payoff is greater than $ 3,600.  Thus, there may be less gambling income reported to the IRS.

  • [email protected] Apr-15-2018
    Slot Winnings?
    A casino is only under the obligation to report a big slot win if it is a certain amount of one-time win, and I believe that is somewhere in the area of $1600 or so? To my knowledge, these are not added up and totaled over the year, even though the slot card allows them to track such info, I believe? Therefore, if I (ever did) win $2000 or more at a slot, I  win "less" that that, because it is fully taxable and reported on a W2G! BTW, a W2G is often given sat the time of the win, and even if it is in "pencil" from a racetrack (as happened to a walk-in tax prep client),it is still valid!

  • Ken Orgera Apr-15-2018
    Ind. exemption
    I believe they took away the individual exemption $4,050. So the vast majority of Americans got very little help.

  • Michael Pinnix Apr-15-2018
    so true
    no one talks about taking away the 4,050 personal exemption. so technically we only gain about $ 2000.00. My feelings is that now I have to double my annual donations to over 12,000. (to rich for me) to charities to make it count.  So why should I donate anything.  Even use craiglist instead of goodwill   

  • Roy Furukawa Apr-15-2018
    Pro Gamblers Loss
    That smells of a lawsuit that they don't allow for pro gamblers to have a loss and can only zero out if it is allowed for other businesses other than gambling. 

  • hawks242424 Apr-20-2018
    Exemption
    With the loss of exemption I am paying taxes on $8000k more money.  Which Earned me a .5% tax cut.  Plus any w2g I generated will be added and taxed.  This law is a loss of the middle class gambler