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Question of the Day - 13 February 2021

Q:

Now that Florida has banned greyhound racing, will the casinos offer greyhound simulcasts from tracks in other states?

A:

Excellent question. 

In November 2018, Floridians voted overwhelmingly to ban greyhound racing in the state by the end of 2020. Florida's last greyhound race was run at Palm Beach Kennel Club at 11:59 p.m. on New Year’s Eve, the very last minute allowed by law.

That leaves Alabama, Arkansas, Iowa, Texas, and West Virginia as states having active greyhound racetracks; Wisconsin, Connecticut, Kansas, and Oregon still have laws allowing it, but no active racing. 

We asked our favorite sports book director, Chris Andrews, who runs the book at South Point and is the author of our book Then One Day ..., for his take on this question. Here's what he told us.

"Right now, since Nevada books were accepting greyhound action only from Florida racetracks, no Nevada sports books that I know of are taking bets on greyhound racing. The pari-mutuel committee is apparently is looking at other possibilities."

What Chris calls the "pari-mutuel committee" is officially the Nevada Pari-Mutuel Association, which consists of race book directors and long-time chair Patty Jones, who, Chris tells us, "has no casino affiliation, but negotiates the contracts and actually wields a lot of power."

Chris continues, "There's a fear amongst some of the participants that greyhound racing has seen its best days and that the other states will go the way of Florida. To make any deal work, there has to be a critical mass of 1) race books and 2) bettors. Otherwise, the fees eat up the profits. No one I’ve talked to is real bullish on greyhound racing right now."

Chris adds, "I'm not personally involved, so I'm just getting all this second-hand."

So to answer the question, as far as we know, Nevada race books aren't only not simulcasting greyhound racing from other states, they're not booking any action on those races either. 

 

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  • [email protected] Feb-13-2021
    Where will the dogs come from?
    Along with the possibility of other states closing their dog tracks, almost all of the greyhound racing infrastructure -- breeding, training, etc. -- is based in Florida. From what I've read, located here in the Sunshine State, most of those operations are closing, not relocating. Those five states still hosting tracks may soon find themselves lacking animals to race on them.

  • Kevin Lewis Feb-13-2021
    It's too dangerous
    There's not enough room on the track for the buses to pass each other safely.

  • gaattc2001 Feb-13-2021
    Way to go, Kevin....
    but seriously, when I lived in Memphis years ago, Southland Greyhound Park in West Memphis Arkansas was a huge operation. A common saying was, "A lot of money goes over that bridge." I think at one time it was the biggest dog track in the world. With Florida closed down, maybe it will be again for a while.
    When my mother came up to visit she liked to go there. We didn't think about what happened to the retired dogs. According to other online sources, that was the main motivation for the Florida ban: concern for the welfare of animals in the entertainment industry. Ringling Brothers, Clint Eastwood, and even Siegfried & Roy took some flak for that.
    I've been away from there for years but it's a racino now, operating at 2/3 capacity according to their website. Maybe if racing drops below critical mass and implodes, they can still make it on the games--but I wouldn't bet on it. Either way, it would be a big economic hit for the area.

  • Ray Feb-13-2021
    Thank you Kevin
    There's always room in the QoD comments section for a Kevin Lewis note.

  • Jeffrey Small Feb-13-2021
    Here in Florida...
    Since I live here in FL and have been "playing the dogs" for many, many years let me give you the details.  The dog tracks did not oppose the constitutional amendment that was passed by FL voters.  The amendment was written to allow the tracks to keep operating whatever other gambling was authorized by their localities.  Since almost all of the tracks were losing money on the dogs but making money on their other forms of gambling they didn't campaign against the amendment and it passed with 69% support. (60% was necessary).  Now the tracks can simulcast/wager on horses and jai lai (OK to bet on people but not dogs) as well as run poker rooms.  Slot machines are authorized in a few counties as well.  The public was not informed as to where the dogs would go--my fear was that they would not all go to other tracks or be adopted but no one considered that issue.  The tracks should have policed the owners who were being cruel to the animals but failed to do so creating an issue for PETA.

  • thebeachbum Feb-13-2021
    In Texas
    In Texas, the track in LaMarque started well but has not done well the past few years. Don’t know all off the greyhound business to state why. I believe the are just hanging on hoping Texas will permit casino gaming and they can open as a racino. They don’t need to be holding their breath. 

  • Feb-13-2021
    How sad
    So there's no more dog racing in Florida?  That's a doggone shame.
    I also have a couple of questions:
    First, because the rail is made of wood, and wood comes from trees, has any dog ever been distracted by the bark?
    Second, unlike with horse races, in dog races, they have a rabbit running along the rail, ahead of the dogs, to lure them forward, and I don't believe that any dog has ever caught the rabbit.  So, has PETA ever scolded the dog tracks about this practice that is sadistically tantalizing and cruel to the dogs?
    Third, has there ever been a problem with a dog not trying to pass the dog right in front of him because he liked the smell of the other dog's butt?
    Fourth and last, why don't dog races have jockeys like horse races do? It's well known that horses often win races because of the actions made by their jockeys, so wouldn't a dog similarly have a greater chance of winning?

  • Roy Furukawa Feb-13-2021
    Kevin Gets No Respect
    Kevin asked his old man if he could go ice skating on the lake and he told him, "Wait until it gets warmer." No respect.  :D

  • Adam Cohen Feb-13-2021
    Probably done
    When you look at the future the next generation does not have interest in the dogs and horses but plenty of interest in sports follow the money and the future

  • O2bnVegas Feb-13-2021
    bad scene
    If a pooch at Southland Greyhound Park ever caught "Rusty", it would be one bloody mess.  They'd have to bring out the big blue tarp to shield the viewing public from the poor torn up dog, like when a horse goes down.
    
    "There goes Rusty!"
    
    Candy

  • Kevin Rough Feb-13-2021
    There are only 4 tracks left
    There are only 4 active greyhound tracks left in the US: Southland Park in Arkansas (which plans to close in 2022), Q Casino in Iowa, and Mardi Gras and Wheeling Island in West Virginia.  Alabama and Texas's last tracks closed in 2020.  There just isn't much left greyhound racing to bet on.