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Question of the Day - 12 June 2019

Q:

On my last trip to Vegas in April, I was playing BJ at Harrah’s. I wanted insurance on a hand. The dealer says, “Harrah’s stop giving insurance a year ago.'' Insurance is the only advantage the casinos give to a player. Why would Harrah’s do such a stupid thing? I will never go there again to play blackjack. [Also, the link to the new poll on LVA reader demographics is at the end of the answer.]

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Okay, there's a lot of ground to cover here, but this whole thing sounds like a monumental misunderstanding. I certainly don't mean that as any offense to the questioner, because some miscommunication was likely the cause of it.

To start, we need to clear up this idea that insurance is "the only advantage the casinos give to a player." This is patently incorrect. Some think that because of the name, "insurance," the casino is offering protection for your blackjack (and other good hands). Nope. It's simply a side bet. The casino is allowing you to bet money that the dealer has a 10-value card underneath his or her ace. But remember, only 16 of the 52 cards are tens, roughly 30%. No part of that indicates any advantage to the player.

"But it pays two to one," you say.

Yes, it does, but the true odds are 9-4, which still leaves you in the hole. That means you're going to lose this bet far more times than you'll win it, and even though it pays 2-1, you'll end up behind in the long run. That makes it a bad bet.

The exception to this, of course, is if you're counting cards and have a firm grasp of the true count, plus the index number that indicates taking insurance.

Now, for the meat of the question, we were unclear if this was referring to Harrah's itself or one of the other Caesars-owned properties (still commonly referred to as Harrah's by patrons). That said, I contacted my sources inside Harrah's specifically, plus other Caesars Entertainment properties. The answers were unanimous: At none of them has insurance been discontinued.

So how could such a misunderstanding occur? I have a few theories.

Some blackjack games, those paying 6-5 and some of the spin-off variations,  don't offer "even money" on blackjacks. This can be jarring while out there gambling at your favorite casino, or in this case, your new least favorite casino. Essentially, what this does is take away the option to get paid even money straightaway when you have blackjack against the dealer's ace. Instead, they now want you to take insurance on your blackjack. If the dealer has a natural and you win the insurance bet, you still get even money in a roundabout sort of way (because the insurance bet gets paid 2-1 and the main bet pushes). If the dealer doesn't have blackjack and you lose the insurance bet, you get your 6-5 payout on your blackjack hand, but lose your insurance money for a net return of less than even money. Terrible, I know. Don't shoot the messenger.

Another possible explanation is either a rogue dealer or one who has a poor understanding of the game he or she is on. This isn't as uncommon in the gaming business as you might think.

Whatever the reason is, I hope it's clear now that insurance is still offered by Harrah's/Caesars Entertainment. And if you do come across a rogue or incompetent dealer who won't let you take insurance, it's okay. You shouldn't be taking it anyway!

And here's your link to the new poll on LVA.com reader demographics.

 

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  • O2bnVegas Jun-12-2019
    Surrender?
    Could the OP (or a rookie dealer?) be confusing Insurance with Surrender?  Many casinos (and certain blackjack game variations) do not allow Surrender. 

  • David Sabo Jun-12-2019
    COUPON BOOK PUBLISHER FUMBLES
    The LVA which is widely known for the POV totally let it's customer base down with this answer. No mention of the use of a match play coupons and insurance.  Shame on you.  It would appear that Anthony Curtis forget how he cut his teeth in Vegas in the early days.

  • Anthony Curtis Jun-12-2019
    Matchplay and Insurance
    Sorry, dude. Yes, if a matchplay is being used on the hand, always take insurance, as you're also insuring the value of the coupon. That extra value makes taking insurance a positive play. Cool?

  • O2bnVegas Jun-12-2019
    Whaaa???
    David Sabo, could you be the rogue dealer that the OP had the unfortunate luck to encounter?  Have some coffee and read the entire question and entire answer again.  If you have better information, please enlighten us here.

  • Anthony Curtis Jun-12-2019
    Candy's on the mark
    You're a 3-2 favorite (that's better than 6-5) that surrender is what the conversation at Harrah's was about.

  • David Sabo Jun-12-2019
    THANKS
    I just felt that this was a golden opportunity to enlighten your subscribers about the proper use of a BJ coupon. Thanks for enlightening your readers. From one grinder to another (former) were cool.

  • Derbycity123 Jun-12-2019
    Even Money?
    I wonder if the confusion is even money vs insurance. Even money on a 3-2 game is just taking insurance. Bet $10 then you bet $5 more the dealer has BJ and you win $10. Or you bet $5 loss the insurance bet but win $15 so $15-$5 = $10. But on a 6-5 game there is no even money since the blackjack would pay $12 and you would loss the $5 insurance bet so you would win $7 if the dealer does not have BJ or $10 if the dealer had it.   

  • O2bnVegas Jun-12-2019
    Thanks and apology
    Thank you, Anthony, proud to be on the 3-2 side.  Dealers can seem momentarily surprised when I call for surrender, I guess because few players do.  
    
    David Sabo, I got on my hind legs at your answer because, like a mom dog with her pups, I/we don't 'cotton to nobody trying to dis' our AC!  (Which is how I read you, though clearly you and AC 'get' each other.) Glad to be "enlightened" about insurance with a match play.  My apologies!

  • David Sabo Jun-12-2019
    No worries Candy!
    When I  reread my post I  realized it sounded mean when I intended it to be funny. My bad. I know that you are a frequent contributor and I appreciate your insight and input. I simply felt this was a teaching opportunity that was missed.  We're good.

  • Deke Castleman Jun-12-2019
    Editing the comments
    And if anyone ever wants to take back or rewrite something in a comment, just send it to me via the Submit a QoD button above. I'll change it in the content-management system. 
    

  • taxman Jun-12-2019
    BJ Player Question
    If you are playing blackjack, and have a question that the dealer did not answer entirely clearly, just politely call the pit boss over and ask the question again.  Just say: "Did I miss something?"   I've done that many times.

  • Anthony Curtis Jun-12-2019
    Fun
    We're all having some fun. That's what this is supposed to be about.