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Question of the Day - 08 December 2024

Q:

"When it comes to high-roller behavior, much much worse is tolerated." Details please! I'll bring the popcorn!

And: What John said! I second that emotion.
 
And: Thirds-eez. I third the nomination 
 
And: Yep! Thought the same thing. A QoD with "much worse" high-roller behavior!

A:

These were questions posed in the comments on the late-November Question of the Day about squeezing and creasing the cards at baccarat. We certainly couldn't ignore them, so here you go.

High-roller bad behavior at casinos usually stems from the entitlement some wealthy gamblers feel due to their status and the significant amounts of money they wager. And the voracious casino is only too happy to look the other way when it has its hands deep into the deep pockets of these players, no matter how obnoxious or plain noxious they get.

The most prevalent behavior that the casino countenances and to us, the most shameful, is disrespect toward the staff. Instances of whales berating dealers, floor supervisors, credit managers, and hosts are legion and stiffing the cocktail waitresses isn't uncommon. Similarly, high rollers have been known to manipulate staff by dangling tips in front of them and withholding paying them until their unreasonable demands are met. We've heard stories of big-time players keeping servers running all over the casino to fetch peanut M&Ms from the sundries shop, a bowl of caviar to accompany top-shelf champagne, eggs Benedict from the French restaurant, and the like. One player insisted that Motörhead, one of the loudest heavy-metal bands out there, be piped at full volume through the VIP pit. 

A close second is drinking to excess, with all the attending pestiferousness. The most mild of it is creating a scene by yelling, pounding fists, and strewing chips all over the layout. Particularly loathsome is blowing cigarette or, worse, cigar smoke in everyone's faces. More than one casino has had to clean up after a VIP player urinated, inadvertently or deliberately, at the table. Interfering in the game is also a typical drunk's pastime.  

And when a smashed player is on a losing streak or even just loses one big hand, batten down the hatches. Breaking chairs, flipping over tables, and flinging drinks, their own and others', might be in the works. 

And all that's just in the casino. Plenty of high-roller suites have been trashed during wild parties. High rollers have been known to put hosts, limo drivers, and casino bosses in awkward positions by demanding escorts, prostitutes, illegal substances, and crooked games. Sexual harassment isn't unusual, especially of cocktail servers, waitresses, and housekeepers, along with other employees who cross a high-roller's path. 

Then there's the bad financial behavior, in which VIPs make it difficult for the casino to collect on unpaid markers. This is, finally, where the joints draw the line. In the heat of the moment, much if not all of the above can and will be endured for the sake of the bottom line and shareholder value. But start messing with the money and even the biggest whales will face consequences. Whale Hunt in the Desert has a few choice stories of high rollers being arrested and sued for unpaid debts and Joe's Dash has an entire chapter on the lengths to which the casinos have to go to collect from international whales.

Of course, most high rollers are well behaved and George. But at the place where the rich, the adrenaline of big money at the table games, alcohol and drugs, and service intersect, you'll see the worst impulses of the highly indulged class.

 

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  • jstewa22 Dec-08-2024
    curious
    How much do you need to bet per hand to be able to urinate on the table and not get 86'ed?  Asking for a friend.

  • Kevin Lewis Dec-08-2024
    Money talks
    Interesting that the only one of these myriad offenses that's ever prosecuted as a crime is owing a casino money and not paying it. I wasn't aware that being in debt was a criminal offense; I guess if the creditor is a casino and the state is Nevada, it is. Pay off those markers, or it's the slammer for you, dude.

  • [email protected] Dec-08-2024
    Seriously?
    So the line is drawn at the casino losing money but sexual harassment is tolerated. Interesting 🤨 

  • IPA Noah Dec-08-2024
    It's not being
    "In Debt," when you sign a marker it's the basic equivalent of writing a bad check. Definitely a crime. 

  • Randall Ward Dec-08-2024
    bad behavior 
    way too often you see that same stuff at the regular tables, it's tolerated too long there too

  • kafka45 Dec-08-2024
    Nice...
    "pestiferousness" if you've EVER used that in every day conversation don't be surprised if no one goes to lunch with you.

  • sunny78 Dec-08-2024
    common
    Talking to people who work in hotels and various other jobs far away from the casino industry, you see it all over social media, from the highest to the lowest end of society, this type of behavior in general is frankly not uncommon. And always has been I'd guess. With video cameras everywhere and social media, it's just exposed now and out in the open. The human animal is the human animal.

  • Robert Dec-08-2024
    However....
    @kafka45, if you did use the word "pestiferousness" in conversation, any resulting lunch dates would probably be interesting.

  • Raymond Dec-08-2024
    IPA Noah
    Taking out a marker is the equivalent of writing a check.  You can pay it off immediately or before you leave town, in which case it's the equivalent of "never existed"; honor it like a check; or have it bounce, in which case it's a bad check and a felony.  In the latter case, the casino has to decide whether to pursue collection or go straight to filing charges.  If they persuade the DA's office to file charges, good luck to the "whale" getting credit anywhere in town.
    
    The marker itself is not a bad check.  Refusing to honor it is a bad check.