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Question of the Day - 03 December 2019

Q:
Homeowner associations seem to make news in the RJ on a regular basis. Being a former president of an HOA in Chicago, I can see how these smallest of governments can be easily corrupted. Great concept until we add human beings. Owning a condo seems like a great idea to a lot of us. Maybe Compton could comment.
A:
[Editor's Note: Jeffrey Compton is, among other things, the writer of our Living Local (and Large at Low Cost in Las Vegas blog. Not only because he's mentioned in the question, but also because he's extremely knowledgeable about this kind of issue, he graciously wrote this QoD.]
 
HOAs have their good points. Many developments have common property or amenities that require local input, control, and maintenance. Also, they allow for many decisions (amount of grass versus desert landscaping, pet rules, parking) to be made at the lowest possible level of government.
 
Unfortunately (based on personal experience), HOAs attract two types of people: "empire-of-their-own" retired executives who want to run everything (sometimes they do a very good job and sometimes they don't, especially if they're anti-innovation) and "busybodies" who spend their days making sure that everyone is following "the rules." Both tend to dominate HOA meetings and general business. 
 
Because of the amount of new construction in Las Vegas over the last 25 years, especially in pre-planned developments, there are many more HOAs here than in other cities. Some are very large (Summerlin, Sun City, Anthem), while others cover as few as 10 units. But because there are so many and they by their nature hit homeowners where they live, HOAs in Las Vegas are often newsworthy.
 
Thank you, Jeffrey. We cede the floor to everyone who's been dying to comment on HOAs, but haven't had the chance -- up until now.
 
 
 
Why do homeowners associations seem to make the Vegas news so frequently?
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  • Jackie Dec-03-2019
    I once lived in a HOA community
    and fought with a "busybody" type who tried to enforce rules that did not exist. The rule pertained to the height of weeds allowed to show in a yard since a lawnmower would reduce that height,  This busybody tried to apply that rule to the height of the grass.  I had been too busy working 12 hour, 7 day shifts to mow so my grass was tall.  It was a nasty fight, not from me but due to the power mongering of the busybody.  Luckily I was found acquitted of any wrong doing at an HOA meeting.  The busy body was furious that I was acquitted.  Some HOA's do become fascist organizations. 

  • O2bnVegas Dec-03-2019
    I will!
    That's funny, Deke. 
    
    Hey, until you lose your HOA manager you don't fully appreciate either.  We had a good one, perfect personality to oversee without being a busybody; gently advise a HO when something needed attention; serve as a conduit to city directors for street, drainage, etc. issues.  Plus collect the HOA fee and pool fee (optional) from all the homes.  Wife died, he moved away and nobody has been willing to do the job (us either).  One guy and his wife announced they would do it, collected catch up money for the pool and other needs, planned a giant yard sale to generate more money (got rained out), then disappeared in the night.  I'm told the HOA still exists on paper, but without a manager not worth much.  

  • Kevin Lewis Dec-03-2019
    School crossing guard syndrome
    First noted in "Peanuts," meek and mild Charlie Brown becomes a school crossing guard and immediately becomes bossy and obnoxious.
    My experience with an HOA is when I owned a house in Henderson, I bought an RV in Arizona and drove it home. I got back at 1 in the morning and parked it in front of my house. At 6:30 the same morning, it was gone--the HOA-hole had had it towed. He didn't knock on my door or anything--he just called the tow company. I had to pay $500 to get it back, at which point I seriously considered using it to crash through the front door of his house. 
    Also, back in the boom years, I considered buying a condo at Turnberry Towers. That is, until I found out that the HOA fees were ONE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND SIXTY DOLLARS PER MONTH. And for what??? "Common area maintenance" using gold-plated lawn mowers??
    HOAs are just another scam made up by jerkwads in order to bleed people of money. In that sense, they're perfect for Vegas.

  • cjen Dec-03-2019
    This is what's going on in my HOA
    A few months back at a board meeting.  Some Homeowners were being negatively effected by wild hogs.  The dispute between one board member and the homeowners effected by the hogs was why should the HOA pay for a professional trapper to benefit a handful of members. We ended up hiring the trapper. He's caught over 2 dozen hogs. One neighbor jogs in a flesh colored speedo which has raised the ire of members. He responds he will put out bear traps to protect his commercial cannabis grow operation, at the same time he stops mowing his property. As it turns out, there is no cannabis operation. It is strongly suspected he cast nails in the in the only road leading in.  He mooned a few women driving by his house.  The HOA called the district attorney and wants to file an indecent exposure in front of a child charge.   

  • Tysonsf Dec-03-2019
    I’m a board member
    I was elected to my HOA (in a high rise) thinking it would be a minimal commitment and it’d be a way of giving back.   Turns out it’s a part-time, thankless job.  When we aren’t finding ways to save money, we are getting cornered in the elevator about the hot water not being hot enough.  When a loud night club opens up a block away, we get complaints, when in fact everyone was notified of the business in the city’s zoning mail outs.  And now I have neighbors who hate me because we fined them for their dogs using the balcony as a bathroom and it drips onto the lower balconies.  But in the end, next year we won’t have to raise the HOA dues because we properly managed spending the building’s money.   But we won’t get thanked for it... just yelled at because a baseboard needs a touch up.  I’d encourage anyone here to serve a term in their HOA before you criticize their work. 

  • vegasdawn Dec-03-2019
    Best and worst
    Section 7 in "The Lakes" has the best HOA.  They have been able to maintain the dues at $$77.00/quarter for over 10 years.  In contract, Sun City Summerlin is the worst.  The board runs on not raising fees and then raises them every year.  It all goes to the golf courses which less than 20% of Homeowners use.  Little dictators.